no way seattle pays a first for him

Ottawa doesn't want Hoffman and Hoffman doesn't want Ottawa

NJ says thanks, but no thanks

All the people involved are gone with the bad blood there, however, OTT doesn't need Hoffman, because he wouldn't crack the top 6 in OTT anymore.

Also that Ryan Donato Contract is WAY undervalued, he is likely gonna be in Seattle's top 6 this year and looking to have a break-out year, he is a lot better than most people think, just needed to mature.

no way anyone does

Once again, the Ben Chairot trade comes back around. Big dmen are always an over valued commodity around TDL, so the reasoning remains that if he is better than Chairot he can get a first from a team

I get the OP was saying "team doesn't matter", but it's really poor context to put teams that are barely even playoff bubble teams thinking they give up these picks. If you expect to be trading away a bottom 5 pick in the 1st round, then you may press, but no way should any team simply with an outside chance of fighting for a playoff spot or even a middle team put on such a risk.

i think teams learned their lesson, he aint worth that at all

probably got stuff for the pending free agents
probably trade for a d-man not sign someone expensive
just guessing at some values for the trades not team specific

just looking to see what the team would look like, didn't really care about the other teams in this scenario. They were a means to an end

they clearly didnt as he got a contract with a raise

your right like chairot will never get a first , we heard it before man

probably got stuff for the pending free agents
probably trade for a d-man not sign someone expensive
just guessing at some values for the trades not team specific


thanks for the feed baCK

I really didnt care about ottawa it could be any team as stated but i do agree donato can be very good, hope he gets a good contract but if not any team should take a flyer on him

probably got stuff for the pending free agents
probably trade for a d-man not sign someone expensive
just guessing at some values for the trades not team specific

probably got stuff for the pending free agents
probably trade for a d-man not sign someone expensive
just guessing at some values for the trades not team specific

thanks for the feed back

There are big physical players that aren't worth a first traded for one just about every year. Savard, Chairot, Foligno are just a few examples but until I actually see GMs learn that lesson I'm going to keep expecting it to happen