SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Redoing Offseason - Is This Better Than The Actual Leafs

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 sept. 2022
Publié: 26 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Larsson, Johan
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
TOR
OTT
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
3.
TOR
LAK
  1. Muzzin, Jake
  2. Voit, Ty
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
4.
5.
TOR
MIN
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
6.
TOR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
Smith, Ty
7.
TOR
    Marino, John
    PIT
      Smith, Ty
      2023 3rd Round Pick (NJD)
      8.
      9.
      10.
      11.
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2023
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de NJD
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      2024
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      2025
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2282 500 000 $82 455 750 $212 500 $0 $44 250 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      950 000 $950 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Predators de Nashville
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
      C, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Larsson, Johan
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
      AD, C, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Capitals de Washington
      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Devils du New Jersey
      4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      800 000 $800 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
      DD
      RFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Capitals de Washington
      750 000 $750 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1

      Code d'intégration

      • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
      • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

      Texte intégré

      Cliquer pour surligner
      Is This Team Better Than The Actual Leafs?
      Le graphique a été masqué

      Options de sondage


      26 sept. 2022 à 22 h 34
      #1
      BigMeech
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: mars 2022
      Messages: 1,546
      Mentions "j'aime": 348
      bottom 6 is horrendous
      NJDevils1317 a aimé ceci.
      26 sept. 2022 à 22 h 35
      #2
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: août 2017
      Messages: 8,440
      Mentions "j'aime": 6,060
      Quoting: Canucks123
      bottom 6 is horrendous


      What? Thats a pretty strong bottom 6, especially defensively
      Saskleaf, C21 et Tintin a aimé ceci.
      26 sept. 2022 à 22 h 52
      #3
      Banni
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: déc. 2020
      Messages: 2,766
      Mentions "j'aime": 520
      Wild aren't ruining their team and cap to take on your cap dumps. Trade them elsewhere. Wild again say no .
      26 sept. 2022 à 22 h 54
      #4
      LongtimeLeafsufferer
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juill. 2015
      Messages: 59,072
      Mentions "j'aime": 22,466
      Trouble is, there are three trades other teams would never make....Devils, Kings, Wild
      NJDevils1317, majormoose007 et MMB a aimé ceci.
      26 sept. 2022 à 23 h 1
      #5
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: août 2017
      Messages: 8,440
      Mentions "j'aime": 6,060
      Quoting: Wildnochance
      Wild aren't ruining their team and cap to take on your cap dumps. Trade them elsewhere. Wild again say no .


      Doesn't have to be the wild. That was just a cap dump it could be to any team for any price, that's not the point of this post
      26 sept. 2022 à 23 h 5
      #6
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: août 2017
      Messages: 8,440
      Mentions "j'aime": 6,060
      Quoting: palhal
      Trouble is, there are three trades other teams would never make....Devils, Kings, Wild


      Kings amd Wild trades could be to anywhere for anything. Increase the picks if needed, that's not the point of the post

      I don't think the NJD one is far off. Point per game winger for a mid 1st + 3rd + young NHLer/prospect is a pretty standard return, but you can tweak it if you want - that doesn't really affect the roster comparison
      26 sept. 2022 à 23 h 8
      #7
      LongtimeLeafsufferer
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juill. 2015
      Messages: 59,072
      Mentions "j'aime": 22,466
      Quoting: UpsideDownQue
      Doesn't have to be the wild. That was just a cap dump it could be to any team for any price, that's not the point of this post


      There are so few teams that can afford or even want cap dumps....that's the a point. Besides Kings certainly don't Muzzin for 5.6m X 2, non playoff Jersey isn't giving all that for two years of Nylander, and really try it find a team(s) that want M NTC Kerfoot and Holl.
      26 sept. 2022 à 23 h 21
      #8
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: août 2017
      Messages: 8,440
      Mentions "j'aime": 6,060
      Quoting: palhal
      There are so few teams that can afford or even want cap dumps....that's the a point. Besides Kings certainly don't Muzzin for 5.6m X 2, non playoff Jersey isn't giving all that for two years of Nylander, and really try it find a team(s) that want M NTC Kerfoot and Holl.


      As of right now youre right, but these trades could be done near the beginning of the offseason. Tons of teams were moving big cap hits around (McDonagh, Burns, Pacioretty, Bjorkstrand, Dadonov/Weber, Murray, etc) and im sure a team wouldve taken a chance on Muzzin/Kerfoot/Holl before UFA opened up and teams used up all of their cap space, especially if they were being paid for it. Maybe its not LAK and MIN, but I think they couldve found a fit if they looked to move those guys earlier. Its the same thing the Leafs did with Murray - they needed a G and took a chance on an overpaid player while getting some assets in return. Similarly LAK needed LHD and may have taken Muzzin back if they also got some picks/prospects

      Just because a team missed the playoffs doesnt mean they arent going to try to get better - NJD just signed Palat at age 31, if they were offered Nylander for a reasonable price before UFA opened up I think they would be interested
      26 sept. 2022 à 23 h 31
      #9
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: août 2020
      Messages: 1,751
      Mentions "j'aime": 986
      Quoting: Canucks123
      bottom 6 is horrendous


      No, it's not
      26 sept. 2022 à 23 h 36
      #10
      Go leafs go
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: avr. 2020
      Messages: 13,179
      Mentions "j'aime": 9,152
      I don’t know why you are taking heat for this: I think it is well thought out. At the end of the day, it’s probably a slightly better roster, but it’s always hard to know with wouldashouldacouldas because we don’t know if those players would have signed, we don’t know if those trades would have worked (I think they are fair though by the way), etc.. But I would have been happy if this is what happened in the off-season, I think it’s a bit better of a roster.

      Quoting: Canucks123
      bottom 6 is horrendous


      ??? You are either a troll or know nothing about hockey.
      UpsideDownQue et Tintin a aimé ceci.
      27 sept. 2022 à 3 h 54
      #11
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: oct. 2020
      Messages: 734
      Mentions "j'aime": 105
      no because why are you trading nylander💀
      27 sept. 2022 à 6 h 18
      #12
      me wan da poonani
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: sept. 2020
      Messages: 4,857
      Mentions "j'aime": 4,243
      Quoting: UpsideDownQue
      Just because a team missed the playoffs doesnt mean they arent going to try to get better - NJD just signed Palat at age 31, if they were offered Nylander for a reasonable price before UFA opened up I think they would be interested


      For me it's just that I'm very hesitant in having the Devils trade 1st rd picks at this point in time.
      I want to see that this core is mature enough to make the playoffs by the strength of their own backs, I think that should be the benchmark for whether it's worthwhile to trade high picks for short term gain or not.

      I love Nylander and I think the value you suggested in the trade favours the Devils.
      But I'd much rather have Palat + getting to pick in the 10-20 range in a stacked 2023 draft would leave the Devils a lot better off in the long term.

      I also think the Leafs would be hard pressed to find a better player at 7m than Nylander.
      Willie's contract fits Toronto's competitive window perfectly, trading him would in almost every case be a mistake.
      27 sept. 2022 à 6 h 54
      #13
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: janv. 2020
      Messages: 6,673
      Mentions "j'aime": 5,201
      This is nitpicky, but the Leafs offered Kase that same deal and he chose the Hurricanes.
      27 sept. 2022 à 9 h 27
      #14
      Banni
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: août 2019
      Messages: 5,265
      Mentions "j'aime": 2,154
      Quoting: palhal
      Trouble is, there are three trades other teams would never make....Devils, Kings, Wild


      THE devils trade is an underpay for nylander
       
      Répondre
      To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
      Question:
      Options:
      Chargement de l'animation
      Soumettre les modifications du sondage