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Toews in Town

Créé par: ceeque84
Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 25 sept. 2022
Publié: 25 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
No idea what Toews value would be in a trade, took a wild guess.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Toews, Jonathan
12 625 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Toews, Jonathan (5 250 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Annunen, Justus
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
2.
COL
    Ducks retain half of Toews
    ANA
    1. Toews, Jonathan
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
    Logo de COL
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    2024
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    2025
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de COL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $82 465 000 $25 000 $3 350 000 $35 000 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    Toews, Jonathan
    2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    987 500 $987 500 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    800 000 $800 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1

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    25 sept. 2022 à 5 h 21
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    Would be a really smart pick up IMO. Would greatly boost their special teams because of FO's. He's not the fastest guy anymore but he's still got great hockey IQ. And playing him with 2 defensively sound players like Nuke and Lehkonen would be great
    25 sept. 2022 à 8 h 8
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    I'd be open to it if it didn't include our future goalie
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    25 sept. 2022 à 8 h 58
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    Aves won’t be trading for a No. 2C.

    MacKinnon
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    Don’t need a 2C
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    25 sept. 2022 à 9 h 21
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    Quoting: JeffW
    I'd be open to it if it didn't include our future goalie


    Doesn't have to. Take Annunen out and hawks probably still accept. I think Toews value is around a 1st. Deal wouldn't be till the deadline I assume so we will have seen how he's been performing
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    25 sept. 2022 à 9 h 32
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    I'd do Kaut and a '25 2nd. Not sure Toews is worth a 23 1st or any 1st really. See how the year goes I guess
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    25 sept. 2022 à 9 h 41
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Would be a really smart pick up IMO. Would greatly boost their special teams because of FO's. He's not the fastest guy anymore but he's still got great hockey IQ. And playing him with 2 defensively sound players like Nuke and Lehkonen would be great


    Players who can't skate fast stick out like sore thumbs in Colorado and don't last long these days. The Soderberg and Nemeth reunion tour was a great example of this, though they're obviously inferior to Toews talent-wise.
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    25 sept. 2022 à 10 h 35
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Doesn't have to. Take Annunen out and hawks probably still accept. I think Toews value is around a 1st. Deal wouldn't be till the deadline I assume so we will have seen how he's been performing


    Haha good because kaut is going to hit waivers here soon so we wouldn't have him at the deadline either
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    25 sept. 2022 à 10 h 40
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    Value right now is probably a 2nd in my opinion. Maybe 1st or 2nd + prospect if he has a good season.
    25 sept. 2022 à 11 h 56
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    Avs wouldn’t trade 90% of those pieces for toews. He’s not worth anything near that
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    25 sept. 2022 à 13 h 0
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    Toews sucks. Even at 50% retained who in the world wants to pay a big price for a guy coming off a 37pt season, who has been awful for years, and all you are doing is paying for a name not an actual player. “Yeah but CHI suck” yeah they suck because of how bad he has been. I wouldn’t trade any of that for him.
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    25 sept. 2022 à 13 h 8
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    Quoting: JeffW
    I'd be open to it if it didn't include our future goalie


    You’d be open to skipping the best draft since 2015 to add a guy that has been living off of his reputation for years, at even 50% retained has a big cap hit, is slow, has not made a real positive difference in shot metrics since 17-18, and who’s degradation in play is one of the reasons CHI is so bad? Because I’m not trading the 23 1st unless I get a player locked up for multiple seasons that plays in the top 6, not some dude who is going to look like a boat anchor trying to keep up.
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    25 sept. 2022 à 13 h 26
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    You’d be open to skipping the best draft since 2015 to add a guy that has been living off of his reputation for years, at even 50% retained has a big cap hit, is slow, has not made a real positive difference in shot metrics since 17-18, and who’s degradation in play is one of the reasons CHI is so bad? Because I’m not trading the 23 1st unless I get a player locked up for multiple seasons that plays in the top 6, not some dude who is going to look like a boat anchor trying to keep up.


    24 1st then
    25 sept. 2022 à 13 h 33
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    Modifié 25 sept. 2022 à 13 h 39
    Quoting: Xqb15a
    Toews sucks. Even at 50% retained who in the world wants to pay a big price for a guy coming off a 37pt season, who has been awful for years, and all you are doing is paying for a name not an actual player. “Yeah but CHI suck” yeah they suck because of how bad he has been. I wouldn’t trade any of that for him.


    That's a terrible take, you clearly don't watch the Hawks. Toews was out the season prior to last after dealing with a immunity issue from long covid he caught in the 2019/2020 end of season. By the end of last season he was coming back into form. Furthermore, if you evaluate Toews on points alone, you clearly missed the point of his game. Even at his peak, he was never a huge point producer but still one of the best centers in the league. He's always been a two way defensive center that is a lock at the dot and lock on the PK before being a point producer, and although he's not the 1C player he once was, he is still very solid and a excellent 3C and decent 2C.
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    25 sept. 2022 à 14 h 6
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    Pat Veerbek isn't doing Joe Sakic any favors, It will cost more than a 4th round pick to retain $2,625,000 on Jonathan Toews. At least a 3rd if not closer to a 2nd rounder.
    25 sept. 2022 à 14 h 33
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    I'm very interested to see how Toews looks this season after everything he's dealt with the past two seasons. I think he still has enough to be worth a 2nd and a prospect, but from stretches of last season he also looked like he had negative value because of his contract.
    25 sept. 2022 à 14 h 50
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    Quoting: JeffW
    24 1st then


    I’m not trading a 1st for him at all. He is washed. COL is now at a point where if they are trading 1st rd picks they need to be for guys that augment the core and aren’t straight aging rentals. They don’t need his cup experience, he’s slow compared to the Avs, he hasn’t been good defensively for years, and his offfense is at an all time low. Paying premium assets for guys like him closes a championship window so much faster.
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    25 sept. 2022 à 23 h 8
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    Avs pass on Toews at that price. Should pass on him at any price with the stuff that went on in Chicago.
    26 sept. 2022 à 8 h 0
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    That's a terrible take, you clearly don't watch the Hawks. Toews was out the season prior to last after dealing with a immunity issue from long covid he caught in the 2019/2020 end of season. By the end of last season he was coming back into form. Furthermore, if you evaluate Toews on points alone, you clearly missed the point of his game. Even at his peak, he was never a huge point producer but still one of the best centers in the league. He's always been a two way defensive center that is a lock at the dot and lock on the PK before being a point producer, and although he's not the 1C player he once was, he is still very solid and a excellent 3C and decent 2C.


    I always tell people if Foligno goes for a 1st+ at the deadline, Toews does too
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    26 sept. 2022 à 20 h 2
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    Hard pass on Captain Look-The-Other-Way
     
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