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Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 25 sept. 2022
Publié: 25 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
VAN
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
  2. Hronek, Filip (2 000 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Karlsson, Linus
  2. Pearson, Tanner
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2026 1st round pick (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de NYR
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $78 639 167 $1 250 000 $2 000 000 $3 860 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 11
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Seems like a poor deal for both sides
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25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 13
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Quoting: Juiceman
Seems like a poor deal for both sides


What could I do to fix it
25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 21
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What could I do to fix it


Well for starters, I don’t see Bertuzzi being traded, and the Canucks don’t need him in the first place. The entire idea doesn’t make sense for either side
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25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 21
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PDG over PDO
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Pass giving up a 1st for a ufa winger is a bad idea, I like hronek tho
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25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 28
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Detroit don't have a replacement for Hronek and will not trade him without getting a comparable player in return. Bertuzzi will be resigned and only if he refuses to resign will he be traded and then at the trade deadline.
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25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 37
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Detroit passes, Both Bertuzzi and Hronek with $2,000,000 retained could easily land us 2 1st round picks. And not picks that are 2 and 4 years away respectively. Tanner Pearson has negative value. And with Yzermans drafting and signing Copp as our 2C we don't need Linus Karlsson we've enough future center depth now.
25 sept. 2022 à 1 h 41
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Quoting: CanucksFansRtheSmartest
What could I do to fix it


Nothing, Neither Bertuzzi or Hronek are being traded for what you're proposing. Pearson is a negative value we don't need Karlsson. 1st round picks in 2024 and 2026 aren't going to cut it. It's either your 2023 1st round pick or pass.
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25 sept. 2022 à 2 h 19
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Bertuzzi can't play in Canada as he isn't vaxxed and it's a bad idea to trade multiple firsts for a winger when we already have enough wingers
25 sept. 2022 à 2 h 25
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Quoting: majormoose007
Bertuzzi can't play in Canada as he isn't vaxxed and it's a bad idea to trade multiple firsts for a winger when we already have enough wingers


Wrong, As of September 30th the vaxx mandate is being dropped, Therefore Bertuzzi can play in Canada this year.
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25 sept. 2022 à 3 h 55
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Wrong, As of September 30th the vaxx mandate is being dropped, Therefore Bertuzzi can play in Canada this year.


ohh my bad
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25 sept. 2022 à 8 h 22
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Detroit declines and it's not even close. Not giving up two impact players (with retention at that) for a cap dump, an average prospect, and a bunch of picks that are YEARS away from materializing.
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25 sept. 2022 à 9 h 30
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So Wings coming out not going in to a rebuild trade two regular players, one who has performed very well for two b prospects and future picks that are 2 to 4 years out?

Shake your hea, becuase Wings are not the Canucks minor league affiliate. You can not just give up future assets to a team thinking that will trade and retain salary to make you better. There is nothing in this trade that could make it better. Wings have to RHD that are playing in the NHL and beyond that there is not much impactful in their system right now.

Yzerman in his presser this past week stated he wanted more 2023 picks not more 2024 and 2026 picks.
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25 sept. 2022 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: theleano1
Pass giving up a 1st for a ufa winger is a bad idea, I like hronek tho


Now I'm not saying Vancouver should do this and If it was my choice I wouldn't accept this for Detroit. That being said if Detroit was really going to trade Bertuzzi there is no reason to think an extension wouldn't be in place. He is worth significantly more with term and with no bad blood between Bertuzzi and Yzerman.
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