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Vegas Trade

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Date de création initiale: 24 sept. 2022
Publié: 24 sept. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Who says no?

Hague vs Sandin are a 1 for 1 swap basically.

Whitecloud is a big RD signed to a very good long term deal. Vegas get an upgrade at forward (I think Kerfoot fits nicely on their team). A replacement right D and a 2nd round pick.

Leafs shed a bit of cap. Vegas fills a hole they have and get a useful pick.

Thoughts?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Hague, Nicolas11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Aston-Reese, Zach1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Hague, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
  2. Whitecloud, Zach
VGK
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Sandin, Rasmus [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2024 2e round pick (TOR)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $82 139 783 $212 500 $0 $360 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Bunting, Michael
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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Robertson, Nicholas
796 667 $
AG
RFA - 2
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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Engvall, Pierre
2 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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Aston-Reese, Zach
750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
2 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Anderson, Joey
750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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McMann, Bobby
762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Rielly, Morgan
7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
4 687 500 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Giordano, Mark
800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Samsonov, Ilya
1 800 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Whitecloud, Zach
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Hague, Nicolas
1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3

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24 sept. à 1 h 15
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No shot Vegas trades two cheap and good defensemen for a bunch of the Leaf's leftovers
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24 sept. à 1 h 19
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It’s Las Vegas
24 sept. à 1 h 30
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Quoting: GroinPucker
It’s Las Vegas


Vegas for short and for lazy simpletons like myself.
24 sept. à 1 h 36
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Quoting: cooliny
No shot Vegas trades two cheap and good defensemen for a bunch of the Leaf's leftovers


If you leave your Leaf Hate glasses on then sure. But Kerfoot is a middle 6 winger who is very quick and good defensively. He would slot in nicely for Vegas in their top 9 (they have a spot for him based on what I see). Holl is a servicable bottom pair defensemen and would replace Whitecloud (although worse). Hague and Sandin I valued similarly. It was since they were both not signed and maybe they would sign for the other team. Whitecloud is definitely a nice piece here though and I recognize that.

I can see why Vegas would turn this down. I can also see why they accept. But to say these are "just" a bunch of leaf leftovers is foolish.
24 sept. à 1 h 41
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Quoting: GroinPucker
It’s Las Vegas


The teams name is actually Vegas not Las Vegas. So Vegas trade would indeed be right
24 sept. à 1 h 42
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I can't see Vegas doing this, they already are in cap hell and are losing 2 good cheap blueliners can't see the benfit for them
24 sept. à 1 h 45
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Quoting: theleano1
I can't see Vegas doing this, they already are in cap hell and are losing 2 good cheap blueliners can't see the benfit for them


I made the Vegas side of this here https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3661917 - They are not in cap hell at all. This trade works no problem for them. Lehner is LTIR all year. The Pacioretty trade solved the cap problem for them.
24 sept. à 1 h 50
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I made the Vegas side of this here https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3661917 - They are not in cap hell at all. This trade works no problem for them. Lehner is LTIR all year. The Pacioretty trade solved the cap problem for them.


You also have brossoit on LTIR. He won't miss the season they don't have the cap to do it
24 sept. à 1 h 54
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Quoting: theleano1
You also have brossoit on LTIR. He won't miss the season they don't have the cap to do it


I signed Sandin to a 3 year deal which pushed him up to 2.2m a year. 2 years he gets a lot less.

But Vegas would have a lot of options when Brossoit is back. They aren't gonna have 3 nhl goalies. 1 goes down and that will make the cap work. They can send a guy like armadio down also.

It would be tight if and when they are healthy and if they decide to keep a 22 person roster. But this is more than manageable.
24 sept. à 14 h 34
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I appreciate the lesson here. The poster just had an back and forth about ‘Tampa’ vs ‘Tampa Bay’ so I was trying to be funny. I apologize that you didn’t understand my joke, I’ll be more careful with my dry humor next time.

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The teams name is actually Vegas not Las Vegas. So Vegas trade would indeed be right
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