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Créé par: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2022
Publié: 23 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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NYI
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. Pettersson, Elias [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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NYI
  1. Boldy, Matthew
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
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NYI
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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NYI
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
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NYI
  1. Sanheim, Travis
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
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NYI
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
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NYI
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 18
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PDG over PDO
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23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 27
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Philly isn't trading their 2023 1st
23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 28
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We can get a lot more for about every player
23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 30
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Islanders in this case pass, Don't see Lou moving Dobson unless a bigger deal like Elias Pettersson or Quinn Hughes are involved.

Minnesota couldn't afford Kevin Fiala, There's noway they can afford Matthew Barzal.

Romanov cost the Islanders 13th overall pick, Hamonic and 2 2nds is atrocious.

Zucker and 2 late 1st round picks for Pulock, You can get a far better offer for him than that.

Sorokin for Campbell and a late 1st, Sorokin is top 5 in the league.

Nice Troll post here.
23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 32
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Petterson's value alone is worth Dobson, Let alone adding the rest.

Minnesota couldn't afford Kevin Fiala, There's noway they can afford Matthew Barzal.

Romanov cost the Islanders 13th overall pick, Hamonic and 2 2nds is atrocious.

Zucker and 2 late 1st round picks for Pulock, You can get a far better offer for him than that.

Sorokin for Campbell and a late 1st, Sorokin is top 5 in the league.

Nice Troll post here.


it’s not the pettersson you’re thinking of.
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23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 33
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the only deals i’d actually be interested in are the philly deal if unprotected and the barzal deal and those teams would never do them so
23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 33
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Quoting: bagelbob
it’s not the pettersson you’re thinking of.


Sorry my mistakes, Wrong Petterson. Islanders than don't do it.
23 sept. 2022 à 7 h 33
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Petterson's value alone is worth Dobson, Let alone adding the rest.

Minnesota couldn't afford Kevin Fiala, There's noway they can afford Matthew Barzal.

Romanov cost the Islanders 13th overall pick, Hamonic and 2 2nds is atrocious.

Zucker and 2 late 1st round picks for Pulock, You can get a far better offer for him than that.

Sorokin for Campbell and a late 1st, Sorokin is top 5 in the league.

Nice Troll post here.


Different Pettersson, the wild really need a center like Barzal for kapriszov. Isles heavily overpaid for Romonv Cambell doesnt matter when your trying to be bad getting the 2023 1st makes it worth it
23 sept. 2022 à 8 h 3
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Different Pettersson, the wild really need a center like Barzal for kapriszov. Isles heavily overpaid for Romonv Cambell doesnt matter when your trying to be bad getting the 2023 1st makes it worth it


nah the isles would not do any of these trades. most of the players in these trades are not going anywhere for a while
23 sept. 2022 à 8 h 18
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Different Pettersson, the wild really need a center like Barzal for kapriszov. Isles heavily overpaid for Romonv Cambell doesnt matter when your trying to be bad getting the 2023 1st makes it worth it


Romanov was worth it
23 sept. 2022 à 9 h 18
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100% the sharks aren't giving up what will likely be a top 5 1st round pick for anything. its looking like they will be buying out vlassic next year or the year after
23 sept. 2022 à 9 h 55
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Just a troll post, trading all the Isles best players and core, while keeping all the veterans who could be traded like Nelson, Pageau, Mayfield and Varly.

I’m surprised he also doesn’t trade Raty for a future 2nd pick also.
23 sept. 2022 à 10 h 12
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bad teams probably arent interested in giving up their first
23 sept. 2022 à 10 h 14
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Islanders in this case pass, Don't see Lou moving Dobson unless a bigger deal like Elias Pettersson or Quinn Hughes are involved.

Minnesota couldn't afford Kevin Fiala, There's noway they can afford Matthew Barzal.

Romanov cost the Islanders 13th overall pick, Hamonic and 2 2nds is atrocious.

Zucker and 2 late 1st round picks for Pulock, You can get a far better offer for him than that.

Sorokin for Campbell and a late 1st, Sorokin is top 5 in the league.

Nice Troll post here.


Whether or not the Pens trade is fair, nobody is getting two firsts out of Hextall. For good or for bad.
23 sept. 2022 à 11 h 26
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Sens would be immensely interested in Noah Dobson. Chabot-Dobson would be amazing

I don't know how to make it work though.

I personally would trade Alex DeBrincat

And if that's not enough, I would add a top prospect like Lassi Thomson or Jacob Bernard-Docker

Chabot - Dobson
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Hamonic/Holden

Damn

Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Romanov cost the Islanders 13th overall pick, Hamonic and 2 2nds is atrocious.

Nice Troll post here.


Yeah obvious trolling
23 sept. 2022 à 12 h 47
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Sens would be immensely interested in Noah Dobson. Chabot-Dobson would be amazing

I don't know how to make it work though.

I personally would trade Alex DeBrincat

And if that's not enough, I would add a top prospect like Lassi Thomson or Jacob Bernard-Docker

Chabot - Dobson
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Hamonic/Holden

Damn



Yeah obvious trolling


What's funny is the Isles traded Travis Hamonic for a first and two seconds. The first round pick they got for Hamonic was actually Dobson
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23 sept. 2022 à 12 h 55
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How on earth is Barzal worth Boldy+1st+1st? I wouldn’t trade Boldy for Barzal straight up.
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23 sept. 2022 à 13 h 28
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i freaked out at the canucks one at first lol
23 sept. 2022 à 13 h 39
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it's a troll post, sure, but like...there's stuff worth discussing

-Isles counter with Sebastian Aho (the bad one) & a 4th for Elias Pettersson (the good one)

-Not worth it for either side. The downgrade at 1C for the Isles is too much (C depth would now be Nelson-JGP-3C[Raty?]-Cizikas), and those 1sts are probably late in the round where the value is less exciting. And Barzal needing a new deal next summer means it's very likely that Minnesota gets to relive the whole Kevin Fiala saga all over again, seeing as they'll have two more years of buyout hell to navigate.

-I mean, Ottawa accepts just because the value is there, but the other side of the sword is that this all but guarantees they *have* to play Nikita Zaitsev every night. Subtraction by addition, if you ask me.

-Easy no, obvious reasons. Pittsburgh already has a pair of $6M RD signed with term, they're gonna add ANOTHER? Pass for the Pens.

-This pair of trades actually is interesting. Pelech for Sanheim & Philly's 2023 1st basically gives you a Bedard lottery ticket. If you can turn Sanheim into Vlasic and San Jose's 1st, you've got two strong chances at a top tier pick. Obviously trading Pelech isn't in the cards, but if something insane happened tomorrow and Jon Ledecky decided it's time to burn it all down, this is the type of trade I could get behind.

-On the other end, not enough value here. Campbell's deal is more expensive than Sorokin's, he's older, and he's a worse goalie. The difference in value between the two isn't made up for with a late 1st.
23 sept. 2022 à 13 h 49
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How on earth is Barzal worth Boldy+1st+1st? I wouldn’t trade Boldy for Barzal straight up.


Like it has happened for the whole NHL (and other sports I guess) history : name recognition

Casual fans don't see things deeper than that

To be fair, the NHL market used to be different, players would return assets a lot based on reputation. Age and cap hits matter more now.
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