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Hall Year 1

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 sept. 2022
Publié: 22 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If BOS is out of the playoffs at the TDL and start a rebuild
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
    Any team/price. This isnt the focus of the post I just want to get them cap compliant
    2.
    TOR
    1. Hall, Taylor (3 000 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    At the 2023 TDL

    TOR should have accrued enough cap space by then to make this work
    BOS
    1. Abruzzese, Nick
    2. Hirvonen, Roni
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
    Détails additionnels:
    Its a steep price to pay but getting Hall at only a 3M cap hit for 3 cup runs is a huge addition
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2024
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de OTT
    2025
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $83 627 283 $212 500 $0 $-1 127 283 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    950 000 $950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Bruins de Boston
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    796 667 $796 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
    AD, C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    750 000 $750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    750 000 $750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1

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    23 sept. 2022 à 9 h 22
    #26
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    Quoting: UpsideDownQue
    What do you think hes worth then? I dont think this is a small package at all


    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Did you miss the price this guy wants to pay? It absolutely is a monumental overpay for a guy who's beginning to look like a fast decline into a bottom 6 role.


    It's less about the player and more about the retention. 3x$3M is a hugeee amount to retain and something we literally have never seen - there's only been 10 trades since retained salary became an option where a team retained $3M or more, and every single one of those was an expiring deal - no team has ever retained this high of a cap hit for more than the last 6 weeks of a season, and if Toronto is going to ask Boston to retain a literally unprecedented amount of cap hit (for a team in their division!) it's going to take an egregious overpay, in my opinion. It's not like the Bruins *need* to move Hall right now, regardless of whether or not they're going into a rebuild - something like 2/3 of their forward group is pending UFA this season, so they can go full tear-down without having to move out any cap.

    If you're stripping the retention, though, then yeah, Hall isn't worth anywhere near this. He's a fine top 6 winger, he'd probably be an 85-90 point guy again on the Leafs, but I just can't see Boston eating that much cap for that long.
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    23 sept. 2022 à 10 h 16
    #27
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    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    It's less about the player and more about the retention. 3x$3M is a hugeee amount to retain and something we literally have never seen - there's only been 10 trades since retained salary became an option where a team retained $3M or more, and every single one of those was an expiring deal - no team has ever retained this high of a cap hit for more than the last 6 weeks of a season, and if Toronto is going to ask Boston to retain a literally unprecedented amount of cap hit (for a team in their division!) it's going to take an egregious overpay, in my opinion. It's not like the Bruins *need* to move Hall right now, regardless of whether or not they're going into a rebuild - something like 2/3 of their forward group is pending UFA this season, so they can go full tear-down without having to move out any cap.

    If you're stripping the retention, though, then yeah, Hall isn't worth anywhere near this. He's a fine top 6 winger, he'd probably be an 85-90 point guy again on the Leafs, but I just can't see Boston eating that much cap for that long.


    Everyone is going to be a 90 point player on the Leafs apparently.
    23 sept. 2022 à 10 h 29
    #28
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    Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
    Everyone is going to be a 90 point player on the Leafs apparently.


    He put up 46 ES points last season skating on a line centered by Erik Haula - you don't think he's going to improve on that if you stick him on Tavares' wing?

    Also, pick a lane - you can't spend as much time on these boards crying that every non-TML fan undervalues Leafs players in trades -AND- act upset when people suggest a good offensive player will be better playing in Toronto's top 6.
    23 sept. 2022 à 12 h 11
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    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    It's less about the player and more about the retention. 3x$3M is a hugeee amount to retain and something we literally have never seen - there's only been 10 trades since retained salary became an option where a team retained $3M or more, and every single one of those was an expiring deal - no team has ever retained this high of a cap hit for more than the last 6 weeks of a season, and if Toronto is going to ask Boston to retain a literally unprecedented amount of cap hit (for a team in their division!) it's going to take an egregious overpay, in my opinion. It's not like the Bruins *need* to move Hall right now, regardless of whether or not they're going into a rebuild - something like 2/3 of their forward group is pending UFA this season, so they can go full tear-down without having to move out any cap.

    If you're stripping the retention, though, then yeah, Hall isn't worth anywhere near this. He's a fine top 6 winger, he'd probably be an 85-90 point guy again on the Leafs, but I just can't see Boston eating that much cap for that long.


    I'm not saying its realistic (quite the opposite actually - I made a similar AGM sending Hall to COL with the description "this is pretty unrealistic" - https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/632428/1), but there have been some large retention on trades over multiple years. Jeff Carter had around 2.6M retained for 1.5 years, so this is really just increasing the retention by 400k and adding 1 more year. Kessel was also 1.2M retained for 7 years, which is a bit different since its a lower $ spread over more years, but still

    I only made the trade return big because of the retention, if were removing that then the value going back to Boston is probably cut in half
     
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