Sounds like you might be a little bitter at certain users (homers)

Not bitter but I am mocking them for their outlandish thinking

Wings decline. 10 million cap hit is too much to spend on locker room cancer.

Ok then

Lol

Detroit would still have to add

Yeah because Bertuzzi for a 2nd, a bottom 6 forward and an unsigned prospect taken in the 5th rd and the odds of 5th rd pick making the NHL is about 34%.

Now only Terry had more goals than Bertuzzi and no one on the Ducks last season had a higher ppg than Bertuzzi.

I often wonder if the people who post stuff like this realize they're saying more about themselves than any point they are trying to make. This certainly wasn't done to convince anyone of anything, I mean he doesn't even present an argument. Just complains about people disagreeing with him. Boo Hoo.

I asked for input and what I got was that the 5th rounders from DET are future 3Cs but the unsigned 5th rounder you mentioned isn’t an NHLer and that Bertuzzi is worth almost as much as Eichel. Hence I’ve learned a lot.

What’s there to argue? I posted what I learned… there’s also no complaining here.

Why did you delete the other ACGM? Just so you know this is just as ridiculous as the ACGM you posted yesterday just in the other direction.

Because nothing came out of it. No one had any real input. I got “Yzerman will retain and take cap back for the right price”, “DET doesn’t need a 3C”, etc. Except the one guy saying it’ll take a young roster player, B+ prospect, 1st + for Bertuzzi. Basically the Eichel package.

The Bertuzzi trade today past by the Redwings fan doubled down on the Eichel package. So I showed what I learned.

Edit: I lied. There was one guy that provided decent feedback. He said change the 2nd to a 1st and that switching Lundestrom for Gaucher wouldn’t change the need for a 1st. Other then that it was pretty much no feedback.

I’m not a hockey expert. I don’t claim to be one. But I think I am well versed enough to not compare any trades to the Jack Eichel trade as a barometer for other trades.

When someone says, “They’re asking for a Jack Eichel return”, it speaks to a very clear misunderstanding of Eichel’s original value or just an ignorance on the dynamics of the VGK/BUF trade.

I guess “what I’ve learned” is that some people still don’t have the presence of mind to differentiate what Vegas paid for Eichel under the circumstances in which they did, from his value/talent as a player if his situation was not as messy as it was at the time.

Vegas got Eichel for pennies on the dollar. That package is nowhere near close to get a player of Eichel’s value.

Jack wanted to leave Buffalo.
Forced his way out.
Highly publicized and detrimental to the organization publicly.
5 years and $10m+ still owed on a contract.
Injured.
Needed an artificial disk replacement surgery.

The return VGK gave up for him was trash for a player of his caliber but that’s what the market dictated for him at the time.

All of these factors contributed to what Buffalo was going to get for him. It wasn’t like he had a routine injury he was nursing, anything spine/neck related, especially an artificial disc replacement, is going to affect teams willingness to take on $10m+ annually, not to mention they’d have to have that amount of cap available to make it work to begin with.

Had he been healthy and all of those other factors still existed, he would have easily returned close to double what he did.

So, it’s not a good comparison to use for any player who is being traded that isn’t injured. It wasn’t a normal trade and the circumstances certainly weren’t normal or comparable to any other deals we’ve seen or will see.

So you think because he asked for a trade he got half the trade value in return? No one is trading for him if they think the injury is career threatening.

But okay we can’t compare Bertuzzi to Eichel because that defeats red wing fans purpose of getting the farm for a rental, so how bout Pacioretty? Both quality scorers who’ve missed time for various reasons. Or Oliver Bjorkstrand? A high end wing that’s signed longer term. Probably will say no because of cap reason for each team right?

Okay fine then how bout Debrincat? An RFA unlike Bertuzzi.

It would be a waste of my time to go back and forth with you on this. If you don’t get it now; you’ll never get it.

I'm a Wings fan myself and i gotta agree with you. Wings fans are the biggest losers on this website . So biased and only negative comments towards others.