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Meier

Créé par: qc14
Date de création initiale: 22 sept. 2022
Publié: 22 sept. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Capitals de Washington
Explications
Meier trade at TDL with knowledge that Backstrom is done for good -- extended 8 x 9 in the summer. Also pick up a veteran LD to give some depth as I'm not too sold on Gustafsson and the team won't head into the playoffs possibly needing to give Irwin or Johansen meaningful minutes. Taxi squad are first callups / black aces.
Transactions
1.
WSH
  1. Meier, Timo
SJS
  1. McMichael, Connor
  2. Leason, Brett
  3. Hagelin, Carl
  4. 2024 1e round pick (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Based off Fiala trade. McMichael is a better prospect than Faber, SJ takes back ~3 months of Hagelin to help balance the cap. Could be either 2023 1st (better draft) or 2024 (chance of higher slot).
2.
WSH
  1. Määttä, Olli (500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Doesn't have to be Maatta but any expiring depth defenseman. Maatta was pretty good for the Kings in the playoffs last year as a deadline pickup, and Detroit will probably sell.
DET
  1. Clark, Kody
  2. 2023 7e round pick (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
A longshot prospect is the going rate for 6th/7th defenseman at the deadline, and a 7th is thrown in for the retention.
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $82 258 334 $100 000 $0 $241 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Ovechkin, Alex
9 500 000 $
AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
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Kuznetsov, Evgeny
7 800 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 3
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Wilson, Tom
5 166 667 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Meier, Timo
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Strome, Dylan
3 500 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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Mantha, Anthony
5 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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Brown, Connor
3 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Eller, Lars
3 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Oshie, T.J.
5 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Johansson, Marcus
1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Dowd, Nic
1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Hathaway, Garnet
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Sheary, Conor
1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Fehérváry, Martin
791 667 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Carlson, John
8 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Kuemper, Darcy
5 250 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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Orlov, Dmitry
5 100 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Jensen, Nick
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Lindgren, Charlie
1 100 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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Määttä, Olli
1 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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van Riemsdyk, Trevor
950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Gustafsson, Erik
800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Bäckström, Nicklas
9 200 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
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Irwin, Matt
750 000 $ (0 $)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Jonsson-Fjällby, Axel
750 000 $ (0 $)
AG
RFA - 1
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Snively, Joe
800 000 $ (0 $)
AG
UFA - 2
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Lapierre, Hendrix
863 333 $ (0 $)
C
RFA - 3
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Protas, Aliaksei
789 167 $ (0 $)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Johansen, Lucas
762 500 $ (0 $)
DG
RFA - 2

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22 sept. à 9 h 51
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I love McMichael but I'd do that trade all day if SJS would take it. Meier is a beast.

Next season:
Ovi-Kuz-Willy
Meier-Lap-Mantha
?-Protas-Oshie

Nasty.
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22 sept. à 9 h 52
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
I love McMichael but I'd do that trade all day if SJS would take it. Meier is a beast.

Next season:
Ovi-Kuz-Willy
Meier-Lap-Mantha
?-Protas-Oshie

Nasty.


Exactly my thought process too. If Lapierre and Protas weren't there behind him I would feel a lot worse about it but I feel pretty good about the center depth in the pipeline. Also the possibility of bringing back Strome as well.
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If Detroit is out of it at the TDL, they will trade Maata for a better return than throw away pieces. He'll return at least a 4th or C+ prospect and that's without retention. Detroit has no reason to help Washington, so if it's not valuable, we just keep him to ride out the season and let him go to UFA. We are already busting at the seams in our pipeline and don't need to add anymore useless picks/prospects, that will ultimately be cut anyways.
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22 sept. à 10 h 18
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If Detroit is out of it at the TDL, they will trade Maata for a better return than throw away pieces. He'll return at least a 4th or C+ prospect and that's without retention. Detroit has no reason to help Washington, so if it's not valuable, we just keep him to ride out the season and let him go to UFA. We are already busting at the seams in our pipeline and don't need to add anymore useless picks/prospects, that will ultimately be cut anyways.


Just last year, Maatta was traded at the deadline for Brad Morrison, a career ECHL forward. Detroit themselves traded Stecher last year at the deadline for a 7th. Robert Hagg got a 6th. Like it or not, that is what depth defenseman go for.
22 sept. à 10 h 42
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Just last year, Maatta was traded at the deadline for Brad Morrison, a career ECHL forward. Detroit themselves traded Stecher last year at the deadline for a 7th. Robert Hagg got a 6th. Like it or not, that is what depth defenseman go for.

Maatta is better than all of them and the value is irrelevant. Detroit does not need to move him and we're in a weird position where we are going to have to let draft picks/prospects walk anyways due to contract limits from all our asset accumulation in the past few years - we have no need to add more of that type of asset, so we're better served keeping Maatta and letting him walk for nothing, than adding assets we're going to let walk anyways, unless the assets coming back have more value than other assets we will let walk.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Maatta is better than all of them and the value is irrelevant. Detroit does not need to move him and we're in a weird position where we are going to have to let draft picks/prospects walk anyways due to contract limits from all out accumulation in the past - we have no need to add more of that type of asset, so we're better served keeping Maatta and letting him walk for nothing, than adding assets we're going to let walk anyways, unless the assets coming back have more value than other assets we will let walk.


kick the can down the road and make it a 5th or 6th in 2024 then, not a big deal and as I said in the description definitely does not have to be Maatta. If there is one part of the Yzerplan that I think has been done completely correct though it is always selling. I doubt DET signs a veteran defenseman to a cheap 1 year deal without the expectation of moving them at the deadline if they're not in the playoff hunt.
22 sept. à 11 h 12
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kick the can down the road and make it a 5th or 6th in 2024 then, not a big deal and as I said in the description definitely does not have to be Maatta. If there is one part of the Yzerplan that I think has been done completely correct though it is always selling. I doubt DET signs a veteran defenseman to a cheap 1 year deal without the expectation of moving them at the deadline if they're not in the playoff hunt.

I don't disagree there, if Detroit is out of it, I think we will certainly sell, there just has to be purpose behind the move and not movement, for movement's sake. The only way I think Detroit moves Maata for less than a 4th, is if it's done as a courtesy to the player, to chase a cup.
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With 11 players on expiring contracts and only 2 retention slots available, Detroit isn't going to retain on any trade that only brings back a 7th and a nobody.
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