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Elite Defence

Créé par: gavinray
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 21 sept. 2022
Publié: 21 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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ARI
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Sokolov, Egor
  3. Thomson, Lassi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Top 10 protected
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OTT
    for cap reasons
    3.
    OTT
    1. Bear, Ethan
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
    CAR
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
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    21 sept. 2022 à 20 h 5
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    Banni
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    Personally I think OTT going after Chychrun would be a huge mistake. OTT has enough dmen who drive offense and few that are good in their own end.
    21 sept. 2022 à 20 h 24
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    Hardly elite. Zaitsev and his two years left just can't be given away. I wonder where the Sens are going to find the cap for Stutzie and DeBrincat and other next seasons.
    21 sept. 2022 à 21 h 10
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    Quoting: palhal
    Hardly elite. Zaitsev and his two years left just can't be given away. I wonder where the Sens are going to find the cap for Stutzie and DeBrincat and other next seasons.


    Find $3M to add to Debrincat’s $6.4; Hamonic’s contract. Wow, that was hard.
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    21 sept. 2022 à 21 h 57
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Personally I think OTT going after Chychrun would be a huge mistake. OTT has enough dmen who drive offense and few that are good in their own end.


    Sanderson, Zub, JBD , Chychrun all great in their own end
    21 sept. 2022 à 21 h 57
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    Quoting: palhal
    Hardly elite. Zaitsev and his two years left just can't be given away. I wonder where the Sens are going to find the cap for Stutzie and DeBrincat and other next seasons.


    There’s plenty of cap. Idk what you’re saying
    22 sept. 2022 à 1 h 23
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    This isn't enough for Bear. Drop the 4th and make the pick going to Carolina a 3rd. Player for pick, straight up.
    22 sept. 2022 à 10 h 53
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    Quoting: csick
    Sanderson, Zub, JBD , Chychrun all great in their own end


    True, still I would be happy with just a Bear move, I think a Sanderson - Bear pairing would be great and they could play together for a while, or at least until if/when JDB gets better than Bear.
    22 sept. 2022 à 11 h 31
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    Quoting: csick
    Sanderson, Zub, JBD , Chychrun all great in their own end


    Dude, are you out of your mind?

    Sanderson NHL experience: Zilch. How can someone you've never seen play at the NHL level is great in their own end?
    JBD NHL experience: 13 NHL games. You can't call any player great after 13 NHL games.
    Zub? Ok, I'll give you that one. He's solid in his end.

    Chychryn? He's far from great in his own end, but he's serviceable enough in his own end for an offensive-minded dman.

    There is nothing great about your defense yet. Only potential. I just personally don't think Chychrun is what you need. Especially what you'll have to give up to get him.
    22 sept. 2022 à 11 h 39
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    Quoting: csick
    Sanderson, Zub, JBD , Chychrun all great in their own end


    OTT fans are very sensitive for some reason. You guys get all butt hurt when people say you're one more year from making the playoffs. Calm down. Your defense is not good... yet. OTT was bottom ten in almost every defense-related category last year.

    Calling your defenseman great? The only true proven good dman on your team is Chabot and he's terrible in his own end. Holden isn't bad, but he's not impactful at this point in his career. There's nothing "great" about this defense yet.

    I hate to break it to you, but you're NOT making the playoffs this year. You'll score a lot of goals and be fun to watch, but you have a swiss cheese defense and not the right mix of defensively responsible forwards. You can save this reply if you'd like, but you're still going to draft in the top fifteen spots again.

    I said this before, but it will be the 23/24 season that you guys ascend in the division. That's not a knock. It's just reality. This is what happens to team on the rise. They keep creeping closer as their young assets develop.
    22 sept. 2022 à 12 h 45
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    OTT fans are very sensitive for some reason. You guys get all butt hurt when people say you're one more year from making the playoffs. Calm down. Your defense is not good... yet. OTT was bottom ten in almost every defense-related category last year.

    Calling your defenseman great? The only true proven good dman on your team is Chabot and he's terrible in his own end. Holden isn't bad, but he's not impactful at this point in his career. There's nothing "great" about this defense yet.

    I hate to break it to you, but you're NOT making the playoffs this year. You'll score a lot of goals and be fun to watch, but you have a swiss cheese defense and not the right mix of defensively responsible forwards. You can save this reply if you'd like, but you're still going to draft in the top fifteen spots again.

    I said this before, but it will be the 23/24 season that you guys ascend in the division. That's not a knock. It's just reality. This is what happens to team on the rise. They keep creeping closer as their young assets develop.


    The offence will carry and the defence will be fine . Ottawa has a top 10 offence. And this is a team that finished 22nd in goals against and will likely improve to the 16-18 range with Sanderson and less Zaitsev . And switch Murray for Talbot.

    If it comes down to it, I’d take Ottawa over Pittsburgh for a wild card spot
    22 sept. 2022 à 12 h 48
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    The offence will carry and the defence will be fine . Ottawa has a top 10 offence. And this is a team that finished 22nd in goals against and will likely improve to the 16-18 range with Sanderson and less Zaitsev . And switch Murray for Talbot.

    If it comes down to it, I’d take Ottawa over Pittsburgh for a wild card spot


    Ottawa has a top ten offense? Ok, we're done here lol

    The homer lenses are strong with you.
    22 sept. 2022 à 12 h 54
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Ottawa has a top ten offense? Ok, we're done here lol

    The homer lenses are strong with you.


    ehhhh it's not crazy to think Ottawa could be a top-10 offense this season. The 10th-best scoring team last year was the Capitals, with 270 goals in 82 GP. Ottawa was in the low 20s with 224 goals. I don't think it's crazy to think that adding a 40 goal scorer in Cat & whatever offense Giroux brings to the table would make up the 45-50 goals they'd need to jump into the top 10.
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    22 sept. 2022 à 13 h 0
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    ehhhh it's not crazy to think Ottawa could be a top-10 offense this season. The 10th-best scoring team last year was the Capitals, with 270 goals in 82 GP. Ottawa was in the low 20s with 224 goals. I don't think it's crazy to think that adding a 40 goal scorer in Cat & whatever offense Giroux brings to the table would make up the 45-50 goals they'd need to jump into the top 10.


    I've said this numerous times. They will score a lot of goals, but they're not going to have a top ten offense.
    22 sept. 2022 à 16 h 59
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    ehhhh it's not crazy to think Ottawa could be a top-10 offense this season. The 10th-best scoring team last year was the Capitals, with 270 goals in 82 GP. Ottawa was in the low 20s with 224 goals. I don't think it's crazy to think that adding a 40 goal scorer in Cat & whatever offense Giroux brings to the table would make up the 45-50 goals they'd need to jump into the top 10.


    ESPN has them with their whole top 6 close to or above 70pts. That would def be a top 10 offence. I don’t know why he’s such a Sens hater.
    22 sept. 2022 à 17 h 0
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    I've said this numerous times. They will score a lot of goals, but they're not going to have a top ten offense.


    Ok . U must secretly hate the Sens this is wild
    22 sept. 2022 à 17 h 0
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    ehhhh it's not crazy to think Ottawa could be a top-10 offense this season. The 10th-best scoring team last year was the Capitals, with 270 goals in 82 GP. Ottawa was in the low 20s with 224 goals. I don't think it's crazy to think that adding a 40 goal scorer in Cat & whatever offense Giroux brings to the table would make up the 45-50 goals they'd need to jump into the top 10.


    And that’s with Norris and Batherson missing games too
    22 sept. 2022 à 17 h 5
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    Ok . U must secretly hate the Sens this is wild


    I don't! This is why this reaction is so weird. I keep saying that you guys are close, but there's still kinks that need to be worked out. I can't understand how fans on here get so defensive if you don't think they're going to have the year they're hoping.

    I'm honestly completely indifferent towards the success of the Sens. I've said you guys are going to be fun to watch for christ sake lol

    I'm just saying your defense isn't there yet. I literally said in another discussion WITH YOU, that I think the 23/24 season is when you guys start taking over the division. You guys are so weird.
    18 nov. 2022 à 10 h 52
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    ESPN has them with their whole top 6 close to or above 70pts. That would def be a top 10 offence. I don’t know why he’s such a Sens hater.


    This isn't aging well now is it?
    18 nov. 2022 à 10 h 54
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    The offence will carry and the defence will be fine . Ottawa has a top 10 offence. And this is a team that finished 22nd in goals against and will likely improve to the 16-18 range with Sanderson and less Zaitsev . And switch Murray for Talbot.

    If it comes down to it, I’d take Ottawa over Pittsburgh for a wild card spot


    This didn't' age well either.
    18 nov. 2022 à 11 h 8
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    This didn't' age well either.


    I guess it doesn’t bode well for Ottawa when they’re 4-2 with Norris still here and 4-3 when Zub went down . A top 4D and top 6F out, wonder how many teams would still be good
    18 nov. 2022 à 11 h 37
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    I guess it doesn’t bode well for Ottawa when they’re 4-2 with Norris still here and 4-3 when Zub went down . A top 4D and top 6F out, wonder how many teams would still be good


    Right, but you said their offense would carry them regardless and their goaltending would be very good. Neither of which is happening. Again, not an OTT-hater, just said they're still another year or two away from it all coming together.

    EDIT: You also scoffed at me in another thread for saying DET would be better and they are better, and also dealing with injuries.
     
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