SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Which forward-for-a-Dman trade do you prefer Canucks fans

Créé par: alwaysnextyear
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2022
Publié: 20 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If you could pick only one, which of these trades do you like the best Canucks fans?

*The Sandin and Dillon trades assume Hughes successfully moves to the right side*
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 450 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Sandin, Rasmus [Droits de RFA]
2.
3.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2025
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2582 500 000 $82 476 666 $1 250 000 $1 700 000 $23 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
20 sept. 2022 à 15 h 36
#1
NoWah49
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 4,865
Mentions "j'aime": 1,432
Not a Canucks fan, but Pearson for Dillon seems to be the most rewarding
alwaysnextyear, NotJimBenning, CallingOutHomers and 3 others a aimé ceci.
20 sept. 2022 à 15 h 39
#2
NotJimBenning
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 321
Mentions "j'aime": 112
Quoting: NoWah49
Not a Canucks fan, but Pearson for Dillon seems to be the most rewarding


I was about to say the same. Pearson is useful, but old. Hoglander is young and is worth keeping around. Garland is on such an efficient contract that we would need a defensemen who is on a similar deal in return - not one on an expiring deal. Pearson for Dillon might be in the Jets' favour, I think a small addition on their end would be appropriate; however, they are probably in greater need of keeping Dillon, than they are in need of a middle six winger.
NoWah49 a aimé ceci.
20 sept. 2022 à 15 h 39
#3
Leafs suck
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 3,564
Mentions "j'aime": 894
Ya no
20 sept. 2022 à 15 h 40
#4
I hate this team
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2022
Messages: 981
Mentions "j'aime": 979
I don't like the garland-severson trade and I don't think trading hogs for a ld is a smart idea. So pearson for dillon is the best idea
Knuckl3s a aimé ceci.
20 sept. 2022 à 16 h 10
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2017
Messages: 3,205
Mentions "j'aime": 1,077
Pearson for Dillon makes sense for the Canucks, not sure about the Jets. That's a good logistical trade though.

I like Garland for Severson (with an extension). I think we're definitely going to have to move out at least one top-9 winger in the next two years and reallocating Garland's cap into a RHD upgrade and potential Hughes partner makes a lot of sense.
20 sept. 2022 à 16 h 14
#6
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 39,983
Mentions "j'aime": 18,310
Is Sandin much of an improvement over Rathbone going forward? That one seems like the least fitting.

If Severson comes with extension that would probably be my choice (I am a Devils fan though).

1. Severson (extended)
2. Dillon
3. Severson (rental)
4. Sandin
20 sept. 2022 à 16 h 15
#7
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2021
Messages: 12,418
Mentions "j'aime": 2,630
Quoting: MikeyG420
I was about to say the same. Pearson is useful, but old. Hoglander is young and is worth keeping around. Garland is on such an efficient contract that we would need a defensemen who is on a similar deal in return - not one on an expiring deal. Pearson for Dillon might be in the Jets' favour, I think a small addition on their end would be appropriate; however, they are probably in greater need of keeping Dillon, than they are in need of a middle six winger.


Pearson isn't old
20 sept. 2022 à 16 h 20
#8
NotJimBenning
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 321
Mentions "j'aime": 112
Quoting: Knuckl3s
Pearson isn't old


He's 30. Once players hit 30, they begin to regress. He had a solid season, but, he is unlikely to sustain this level of play for another 3-4 years for example. He isn't Chara, but he isn't Podz or Hogz either. 30 year olds usually don't get moved for an insane haul, unless they're very high producers. Pearson is worth around a mid 2nd rounder at most. Which is very very generous for us.
20 sept. 2022 à 16 h 38
#9
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2021
Messages: 12,418
Mentions "j'aime": 2,630
Quoting: MikeyG420
He's 30. Once players hit 30, they begin to regress. He had a solid season, but, he is unlikely to sustain this level of play for another 3-4 years for example. He isn't Chara, but he isn't Podz or Hogz either. 30 year olds usually don't get moved for an insane haul, unless they're very high producers. Pearson is worth around a mid 2nd rounder at most. Which is very very generous for us.


Not all players start to regress at age 30, no guarantee Pearson will be one of them
20 sept. 2022 à 18 h 35
#10
Ex Nucks fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 17,615
Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
Quoting: NHLfan10506
Is Sandin much of an improvement over Rathbone going forward? That one seems like the least fitting.

If Severson comes with extension that would probably be my choice (I am a Devils fan though).

1. Severson (extended)
2. Dillon
3. Severson (rental)
4. Sandin


Severson with an extension is good. Severson as a rental should be an instant decline given that Garland is one of the best 5v5 point producers in the league. According to analysts, he has the most efficient contract on our team
20 sept. 2022 à 18 h 53
#11
Démarrer sujet
alwaysnextyear
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 5,523
Mentions "j'aime": 1,566
Quoting: MikeyG420
I was about to say the same. Pearson is useful, but old. Hoglander is young and is worth keeping around. Garland is on such an efficient contract that we would need a defensemen who is on a similar deal in return - not one on an expiring deal. Pearson for Dillon might be in the Jets' favour, I think a small addition on their end would be appropriate; however, they are probably in greater need of keeping Dillon, than they are in need of a middle six winger.


Quoting: Canucks33
Pearson for Dillon makes sense for the Canucks, not sure about the Jets. That's a good logistical trade though.

I like Garland for Severson (with an extension). I think we're definitely going to have to move out at least one top-9 winger in the next two years and reallocating Garland's cap into a RHD upgrade and potential Hughes partner makes a lot of sense.


Quoting: NHLfan10506
Is Sandin much of an improvement over Rathbone going forward? That one seems like the least fitting.

If Severson comes with extension that would probably be my choice (I am a Devils fan though).

1. Severson (extended)
2. Dillon
3. Severson (rental)
4. Sandin


Quoting: Juiceman
Severson with an extension is good. Severson as a rental should be an instant decline given that Garland is one of the best 5v5 point producers in the league. According to analysts, he has the most efficient contract on our team


I didn't explicitly say it, but the extension with Severson is implied. No way the Canucks should entertain trading Garland unless there's at least the knowledge that Severson would be willing to extend with VAN and what the contract ask would be.
21 sept. 2022 à 8 h 31
#12
Cold spaghetti
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2019
Messages: 4,917
Mentions "j'aime": 2,134
Pearson for Dillon would be a great trade for both teams honestly
21 sept. 2022 à 15 h 40
#13
NotJimBenning
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 321
Mentions "j'aime": 112
Quoting: alwaysnextyear
I didn't explicitly say it, but the extension with Severson is implied. No way the Canucks should entertain trading Garland unless there's at least the knowledge that Severson would be willing to extend with VAN and what the contract ask would be.


I understand that it was implied. But when dealing away one of the most efficient deals your team has on the books, you need to be certain you are receiving similar value, if not more. Given that Severson has averaged close to .5PPG his past 3 seasons, and the inflation in AAV for defensemen, especially those who produce at such a level - it would be difficult to see Severson get anything less than 6.5M x 6-8 years on the open market (with a .5M decrease/increase depending on the desirability of the destination).

Given that Garland has 3 more years after this one at a hair under 5M, after an extension, we'd be paying Severson a minimum of 1M more (in an ideal world) - this too, in the midst of having to offer major extensions to our core, such as that which we are currently negotiating with Horvat. We cannot fix one issue by causing another, this deal unfortunately would do exactly that. Ultimately, Severson is a fantastic piece to bring in when we see his nationality, pedigree, and production. However, the Canucks will find it quite difficult to retain Severson without moving out a piece such as Myers first. Which is why I don't believe this deal makes sense for the Canucks. Ethan Bear has a much lower acquisition cost and is an RFA, which means we can move him for future assets if we cannot re-sign him, rather than lose him to FA like we potentially would with Severson.
alwaysnextyear et Tintin a aimé ceci.
22 sept. 2022 à 5 h 49
#14
do not Devil my ass
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2020
Messages: 4,872
Mentions "j'aime": 4,248
Quoting: MikeyG420
I understand that it was implied. But when dealing away one of the most efficient deals your team has on the books, you need to be certain you are receiving similar value, if not more. Given that Severson has averaged close to .5PPG his past 3 seasons, and the inflation in AAV for defensemen, especially those who produce at such a level - it would be difficult to see Severson get anything less than 6.5M x 6-8 years on the open market (with a .5M decrease/increase depending on the desirability of the destination).


Just to say, I think 6.5M x 6-8 years is very much on the higher end of projecting Severson's next contract.
Depending on how 22-23 goes for Severson that could be a reasonable ask but as of now I think Severson's next AAV will come in at 5.25m - 6m.
22 sept. 2022 à 19 h 17
#15
NotJimBenning
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 321
Mentions "j'aime": 112
Quoting: Tintin
Just to say, I think 6.5M x 6-8 years is very much on the higher end of projecting Severson's next contract.
Depending on how 22-23 goes for Severson that could be a reasonable ask but as of now I think Severson's next AAV will come in at 5.25m - 6m.


This was based off of his comparables. Weegar has been averaging the same totals as Severson over the last 3 seasons - he's rumoured to be finishing negotiations on a 6.5 x 7/8 year deal with the flames. So I don't see Severson going below 6M.
22 sept. 2022 à 21 h 30
#16
Ex Nucks fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 17,615
Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
Quoting: MikeyG420
This was based off of his comparables. Weegar has been averaging the same totals as Severson over the last 3 seasons - he's rumoured to be finishing negotiations on a 6.5 x 7/8 year deal with the flames. So I don't see Severson going below 6M.


Weegar is way better analytically though
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage