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One Two Punch

Créé par: MacanBayangan
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2022
Publié: 20 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 400 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NSH
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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PHI
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. Muzzin, Jake
  3. Niemelä, Topi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 489 783 $212 500 $0 $10 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 2
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
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834 167 $834 167 $
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20 sept. 2022 à 6 h 56
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Every asset going to Philadelphia is better than Risto.
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20 sept. 2022 à 7 h 16
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it would take the flyers 1st to get the leafs to even consider taking risto
20 sept. 2022 à 7 h 24
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Philly says yes and RUNS
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20 sept. 2022 à 7 h 34
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I mean NSH doesn't have the cap space but hell, we'll find a way
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20 sept. 2022 à 7 h 57
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I mean NSH doesn't have the cap space but hell, we'll find a way


Um yea I’d rather keep jeannot. Pass
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20 sept. 2022 à 7 h 59
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Every asset going to Philadelphia is better than Risto.


Quoting: JaredOfLondon
it would take the flyers 1st to get the leafs to even consider taking risto


Quoting: fullblowncaniac90
Philly says yes and RUNS




K seems like I've vastly overestimated Ristolainen, my bad. In that case, what's the best RHD I could get with that same package who is less than 5.5 aav and with 2+ in term?
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 2
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K seems like I've vastly overestimated Ristolainen, my bad. In that case, what's the best RHD I could get with that same package who is less than 5.5 aav and with 2+ in term?


Why would you want to though? Why not keep all those and wait 2 years for Niemela to be a full time player. We don't need RD
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 4
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Why would you want to though? Why not keep all those and wait 2 years for Niemela to be a full time player. We don't need RD


The idea was to get a win now D for the last two years of the core contracts but I take the point that Niemela could and probably will develop into what this scenario would be trading for. Anyways, just spitballin
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 12
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Um yea I’d rather keep jeannot. Pass


I mean I'm a fan of Jeannot myself but for that return I'd make it work I would think, I feel it's at least a good offer
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20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 19
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I mean I'm a fan of Jeannot myself but for that return I'd make it work I would think, I feel it's at least a good offer


Its a ufa rental and a small winger prospect. We have tons of good wing prospects and have been migrating on purpose away from small players. Makes zero sense for Nashville. You dont trade jeannot for a propsect in an area you have several good prospects in. If he was a high end center prospect, thatd require more thought
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20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 23
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The idea was to get a win now D for the last two years of the core contracts but I take the point that Niemela could and probably will develop into what this scenario would be trading for. Anyways, just spitballin


We have a win now D
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 29
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The idea was to get a win now D for the last two years of the core contracts but I take the point that Niemela could and probably will develop into what this scenario would be trading for. Anyways, just spitballin


that's the thing, there simply arnt any win now D out there that are available for anything that would make sense for the leafs. They dont need one bad enough. Their biggest issues are 2LW and hoping the goaltending can at least Kuemper them through the playoffs.
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20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 32
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Um yea I’d rather keep jeannot. Pass


Jeannot's one of those cases where his value to Nashville significantly outweighs what he (should be) worth on the market. He's 25 with just over a single season in the NHL and he shot just under 20%.
He's cheap and might be pretty good so Nashville isnt gonna move him for anything but a rediculous over pay and no team should pay that because there's a really good chance he's not near as good as he looked last year.
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 34
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The risto trade is awful
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20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 38
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Rather have Muzzin for two years than Risto for five. And expect the Leafs to to give up assets too? Two bad trades for the Leafs.
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 52
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Jeannot's one of those cases where his value to Nashville significantly outweighs what he (should be) worth on the market. He's 25 with just over a single season in the NHL and he shot just under 20%.
He's cheap and might be pretty good so Nashville isnt gonna move him for anything but a rediculous over pay and no team should pay that because there's a really good chance he's not near as good as he looked last year.


Problem with jeannot and Nashville is jeannot is exactly the kind of winger they want in the role hes in. We have skill guys coming up through the ranks (Evangelista, Kemell, L'Heureux) and young players that could use more ice time (Tomasino, Tolvanen, Trenin, Jeannot). We are pretty solid at wing depth so this particular trade doesnt make much sense to me. Even if the trade was for a high end center prospect i think Poile would have a hard time trading Jeannot simply because hes the embodiment of what Poile sees as the Predator identity. Even if his production slips, he still brings alot to the game. Hes known for staying on the ice after practice and asking coaches what in particular he needs to improve on and then working on it. He has a real drive for becoming the best player he possibly can. Work ethic can be infectious so its good to have a guy like him around
20 sept. 2022 à 8 h 56
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Problem with jeannot and Nashville is jeannot is exactly the kind of winger they want in the role hes in. We have skill guys coming up through the ranks (Evangelista, Kemell, L'Heureux) and young players that could use more ice time (Tomasino, Tolvanen, Trenin, Jeannot). We are pretty solid at wing depth so this particular trade doesnt make much sense to me. Even if the trade was for a high end center prospect i think Poile would have a hard time trading Jeannot simply because hes the embodiment of what Poile sees as the Predator identity. Even if his production slips, he still brings alot to the game. Hes known for staying on the ice after practice and asking coaches what in particular he needs to improve on and then working on it. He has a real drive for becoming the best player he possibly can. Work ethic can be infectious so its good to have a guy like him around


oh for sure, like Nashville has no reason to move him even if he's just a 20 goal 40 point guy he's cheap and fills a needed role. The production dip is only really an issue for a team who tries and potentially succeeds in trading for him. It's basically a Brandon Hagel sort of thing, he got a comedic amount in a trade despite having what amounts to one good NHL season as an older rookie type and Tampa bet a lot that he's that guy going forward on a cheap contract.
20 sept. 2022 à 9 h 2
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The idea was to get a win now D for the last two years of the core contracts but I take the point that Niemela could and probably will develop into what this scenario would be trading for. Anyways, just spitballin


risto is a win the draft lottery now d
20 sept. 2022 à 9 h 3
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nick robertson will score more goals than jeannot this year book it
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20 sept. 2022 à 9 h 43
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K seems like I've vastly overestimated Ristolainen, my bad. In that case, what's the best RHD I could get with that same package who is less than 5.5 aav and with 2+ in term?


Demelo,Murphy,Severson (Still worth it) ,Maybe Roy if he gets upset at 3rd pair minutes . who’d ever would be cheaper
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20 sept. 2022 à 9 h 58
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nick robertson will score more goals than jeannot this year book it


AHL goals? Yeah probably.
20 sept. 2022 à 12 h 35
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AHL goals? Yeah probably.


If he plays 2nd line min with JT & Willy or Marner i can see 30+ goals easily he has a cannon
20 sept. 2022 à 13 h 52
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If he plays 2nd line min with JT & Willy or Marner i can see 30+ goals easily he has a cannon


Not even with a linemate like Jeannot to protect and clear some space for him. I think Robertson's ceiling is elite AHL scorer, but fringe NHler.
20 sept. 2022 à 14 h 42
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Not even with a linemate like Jeannot to protect and clear some space for him. I think Robertson's ceiling is elite AHL scorer, but fringe NHler.


its funny because jeannot is 4 years older and has played in the ECHL played his first real season at 24 and preds fans talk about him like hes a superstar and robberston who just turned 21 whos has a much higher ceiling than jeannot is going to be a bust and AHLer, lmfao at least make it make sense, anti leaf bias is real
20 sept. 2022 à 15 h 1
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its funny because jeannot is 4 years older and has played in the ECHL played his first real season at 24 and preds fans talk about him like hes a superstar and robberston who just turned 21 whos has a much higher ceiling than jeannot is going to be a bust and AHLer, lmfao at least make it make sense, anti leaf bias is real


Why does any opinion that doesn't praise the Leafs get dismissed as "anti leafs bias" with this fanbase? It's tiresome.

Do you think Robertson is going to have a growth spurt at 21? He's smaller than the Coyotes' new arena, more fragile than a Toronto Sun columnist's ego, and I don't like his skating.

Jeannot probably won't repeat last season's scoring pace, with the Preds seemingly content to keep him on the 3rd line, instead of putting him into the top six. Still, that's just one aspect of his game. He's the closest the NHL has to the next Tom Wilson (minus the lack of composure) right now. I'd much rather have that, than the second coming of Darren Haydar.
 
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