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What has Nils Lundkvist done to prove that he is still worth a 1st round pick

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Équipe: 2022-23 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2022
Publié: 19 sept. 2022
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*Conditions: If the pick is a top 10 selection, the pick will instead become the Dallas' unprotected 2024 1st round pick


**Conditions: If Lundkvist earns 55 cumulative points over the 2022-23 and 2023-24 regular seasons, the pick becomes Dallas' 2025 3rd
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 21
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If he lives up to his potential than Dallas gets a top four d man with 2 years left on his ELC. Not sure we should criticize that. Depends on the conditions tho.
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 23
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Giving up a 1st in a deep 2023 draft WITHOUT having the Rangers take back any kind of salary is a pretty significant L from Jim Nill

And I say this as someone who like Lundkvist.
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If he lives up to his potential than Dallas gets a top four d man with 2 years left on his ELC. Not sure we should criticize that. Depends on the conditions tho.


The 2023 1st is Top 10 protected.

If it's in the Top 10, Rangers receive Dallas's 2024 1st.

2023 is supposedly a deeper draft class than 2021 or 2022.
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 24
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The 2023 1st is Top 10 protected.

If it's in the Top 10, Rangers receive Dallas's 2024 1st.

2023 is supposedly a deeper draft class than 2021 or 2022.


It’s a risk for sure. But they weren’t gonna trade him at a discount. He’s got two years on his ELC and I think both the agent and the player went about this the right way.
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 26
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Giving up a 1st in a deep 2023 draft WITHOUT having the Rangers take back any kind of salary is a pretty significant L from Jim Nill

And I say this as someone who like Lundkvist.


And if Lundkvist steps into the Klingberg spot and excels than nobody will complain. I have to be honest, I don’t like the idea of trading a first round pick in most instances. But this d core is both young and good. That’s important.
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I dont know but hey if Dubas trades Sandin bidding war can now start with a 1st grin

Thanks Dallas
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: TheMooterus
Giving up a 1st in a deep 2023 draft WITHOUT having the Rangers take back any kind of salary is a pretty significant L from Jim Nill

And I say this as someone who like Lundkvist.


Not really, Lundkvist a player who was drafted in the 1st round and still young, will fill a need eventually. Not getting him at a discount doesn't make it a bad trade. The Rangers may draft a better player in the deep draft but doesn't mean that Dallas would have. This trade might look terrible in hindsight but that doesn't make it a bad trade if it's because the guy selected with that pick is better.
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If he lives up to his potential than Dallas gets a top four d man with 2 years left on his ELC. Not sure we should criticize that. Depends on the conditions tho.


Per Matthew DeFranks of The Dallas Morning News, the conditional 2025 fourth-round pick in the deal becomes a 2025 third-round pick if Lundkvist scores 55 or more total points over the next two seasons.
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 35
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Per Matthew DeFranks of The Dallas Morning News, the conditional 2025 fourth-round pick in the deal becomes a 2025 third-round pick if Lundkvist scores 55 or more total points over the next two seasons.


Decent chance that happens if he gets a lot of power play time
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Be young and right handed
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If he lives up to his potential than Dallas gets a top four d man with 2 years left on his ELC. Not sure we should criticize that. Depends on the conditions tho.


He’s 22 with 25 NHL games. He’s not worth a 1st anymore no matter how high you want to set his potential.
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19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 45
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He’s 22 with 25 NHL games. He’s not worth a 1st anymore no matter how high you want to set his potential.


I’m not saying he is or he isn’t. I’m saying that it’s not shocking based off his draft slot.
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I’m not saying he is or he isn’t. I’m saying that it’s not shocking based off his draft slot.


He’s 22 tho. That’s why it is shocking. If he was 20 even with 0 NHL games I could see it but at 22 his potential can’t be that high if he can’t even play in the NHL now.
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He’s 22 tho. That’s why it is shocking. If he was 20 even with 0 NHL games I could see it but at 22 his potential can’t be that high if he can’t even play in the NHL now.


He was behind Fox, Trouba and Schneider. I’m not shocked by this because of the Romanov trade lmao.
19 sept. 2022 à 20 h 55
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He’s 22 tho. That’s why it is shocking. If he was 20 even with 0 NHL games I could see it but at 22 his potential can’t be that high if he can’t even play in the NHL now.


He was scheduled to come over in 2020 if not for Covid and the uncertainty that came with it, and he was just fine this season for someone who wasn't given any important minutes or good teammates
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He was behind Fox, Trouba and Schneider. I’m not shocked by this because of the Romanov trade lmao.


You’re right. I totally forgot about the Romanov trade. It actually makes sense then. Similar value for both guys.
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You’re right. I totally forgot about the Romanov trade. It actually makes sense then. Similar value for both guys.


Not similar.

Romanov played almost a full season of NHL hockey last year and earned a multi-million dollar extension.

And the Islanders had some assurance in giving up a first by swapping Pick# 98 for Pick #13.

Dallas massively overpaid here.
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He was scheduled to come over in 2021 if not for Covid and the uncertainty that came with it, and he was just fine this season for someone who wasn't given any important minutes or good teammates


Okay. Still when your 22 and only have 25 games I still think your value as a player shouldn’t be near a 1st. But as was just pointed out it does make some sense because of the Romanov trade.

Maybe I’m crazy but with a guy like Nils I think the trade should be a conditional pick that gets better the more/better he plays. Say a 3rd that becomes a 2nd if he plays a certain amount of games and then a 1st if he plays that amount and produces a certain number of points.
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Not similar.

Romanov played almost a full season of NHL hockey last year and earned a multi-million dollar extension.

And the Islanders had some assurance in giving up a first by swapping Pick# 98 for Pick #13.


Dallas massively overpaid here.
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He was behind Fox, Trouba and Schneider. I’m not shocked by this because of the Romanov trade lmao.


Agreed. I originally thought this was an over pay til I considered the Romanov trade. Either way I like the add. He fills a pretty big need if he works out and he closes that gap between the guys we have now and the guys we just drafted
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Not similar.

Romanov played almost a full season of NHL hockey last year and earned a multi-million dollar extension.

And the Islanders had some assurance in giving up a first by swapping Pick# 98 for Pick #13.


Where the difference lies in GP between them the contract makes up for. That’s where i can make sense of the trades.
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Dallas massively overpaid here.


Did you just respond to yourself?? Lmao. I bet you like your own posts on social media too
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Dallas massively overpaid here.


Yes and so did NYI for Romanov and MTL for Dach. But they’re all in the same range value wise for young guys that obviously those teams think can still be good.

I wouldn’t have traded a 1st for any of those guys but here we are lol
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Did you just respond to yourself?? Lmao. I bet you like your own posts on social media too


I was trying to edit my post.

It was an accident.

Jesus.
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I was trying to edit my post.

It was an accident.

Jesus.


I was teasing. Calm down
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