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Canucks get Bear Canes get LW depth to help replace Patches

Créé par: willdog37
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2022
Publié: 19 sept. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
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UFAANSCAP HIT
Boyle, Brian1750 000 $
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Bear, Ethan
CAR
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. 2023 3e round pick (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
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Bear, Ethan
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19 sept. à 16 h 21
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Carolina doesn’t really need left wing depth lol. And certainly not at that price.
19 sept. à 16 h 22
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The Canes have no need for LW depth since they signed Stastny. They’re not taking on a cap dump in a trade for Bear.

Try again.
19 sept. à 16 h 23
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Quoting: spockrock
The Canes have no need for LW depth since they signed Stastny. They’re not taking on a cap dump in a trade for Bear.

Try again.


Pearson's actually good at hockey, not just a cap dump...Bear can't even crack the lineup
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19 sept. à 16 h 24
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Pearson's actually good at hockey, not just a cap dump...Bear can't even crack the lineup


Pearson makes more than Bear and RD is a premium position. To CAR, he’s a cap dump.

Again, try again.
19 sept. à 16 h 29
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Quoting: spockrock
Pearson makes more than Bear and RD is a premium position. To CAR, he’s a cap dump.

Again, try again.


Wow you really think they'll get a 1st or 2nd rounder for a guy who might be non-tendered next summer...that's completely irrational
19 sept. à 16 h 30
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Wow you really think they'll get a 1st or 2nd rounder for a guy who might be non-tendered next summer...that's completely irrational


Please point out where I said he’d return a 1st or 2nd.

Time to use your reading comprehension skills there chief.
19 sept. à 16 h 37
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Quoting: spockrock
Pearson makes more than Bear and RD is a premium position. To CAR, he’s a cap dump.

Again, try again.


Pearson makes more money because he is a better player. Shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp
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19 sept. à 16 h 39
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Pearson makes more money because he is a better player. Shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp


What benefit do the Canes get by trading Bear for a more expensive player that they have no need for?

That shouldn’t be too hard to grasp.
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19 sept. à 16 h 43
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Quoting: willdog37
Pearson's actually good at hockey, not just a cap dump...Bear can't even crack the lineup


Considering he got taken out of the lineup due to injuries and Covid, you can’t exactly make that argument. Besides, Pearson is only good for about 40 points if you are lucky. Since he likely would be playing on the 4th line in Vancouver according to Daily Faceoff, he won’t even hit 40 this year. And for arguments sake, if he was sent to Carolina, he would either be on the 4th line or the 16F when Patches comes back. Canes can’t afford to tie up 3mil on a healthy scratch. So he is a cap dump, and Canes shoot this offer down instantly. Besides, Canes have no need for LW depth with the Stastny signing.
19 sept. à 16 h 43
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What benefit do the Canes get by trading Bear for a more expensive player that they have no need for?

That shouldn’t be too hard to grasp.


Injuries happen all the time. Having depth is a good thing for a team wanting to make a cup run. They have the space to take on an additional $1 million. The Canucks are giving up a draft pick for the Canes to take on that space (if you want to bump it to a 2nd, fine). I fail to see how this trade hurts the Canes at all.
19 sept. à 16 h 49
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Injuries happen all the time. Having depth is a good thing for a team wanting to make a cup run. They have the space to take on an additional $1 million. The Canucks are giving up a draft pick for the Canes to take on that space (if you want to bump it to a 2nd, fine). I fail to see how this trade hurts the Canes at all.


They don’t really have the space, even with Gardiner to LTIR, they can barely fit Pacioretty in when he’s ready. That’s w/o the headache of finding a place for Pearson to pay then and now on top of having to clear $1M in space to activate Pacioretty in February. They don’t have to do anything if they keep Bear.

Taking on Pearson at $3M plus a pick gives them zero incentive to make a deal with Vancouver. Just send a pick and the Canucks will have to sort out their cap issues on their own.
19 sept. à 17 h 16
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Quoting: spockrock
Pearson makes more than Bear and RD is a premium position. To CAR, he’s a cap dump.

Again, try again.


Pearson > Bear, don't be ridiculous
19 sept. à 17 h 17
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Considering he got taken out of the lineup due to injuries and Covid, you can’t exactly make that argument. Besides, Pearson is only good for about 40 points if you are lucky. Since he likely would be playing on the 4th line in Vancouver according to Daily Faceoff, he won’t even hit 40 this year. And for arguments sake, if he was sent to Carolina, he would either be on the 4th line or the 16F when Patches comes back. Canes can’t afford to tie up 3mil on a healthy scratch. So he is a cap dump, and Canes shoot this offer down instantly. Besides, Canes have no need for LW depth with the Stastny signing.


Pearson is a perennial 40 point player, there is no "luck" to it
19 sept. à 17 h 22
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Canucks will probably pick up a RHD after rosters are set and waivers are going on.

I would not give up much for Bear maybe a 4 th or 5 th only. He is another Troy Stecher and they are not that difficult to find.
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Pearson is a perennial 40 point player, there is no "luck" to it


Yes because hitting 40 points 3 times in 9 seasons where he played in the regular season is “perennial”. Sure buddy.
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Yes because hitting 40 points 3 times in 9 seasons where he played in the regular season is “perennial”. Sure buddy.


Looks like a pretty reasonable track record to me, considering the player has bounced around a little bit plus endured the covid seasons
19 sept. à 17 h 42
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Pearson > Bear, don't be ridiculous


Where would he play in CAR’s lineup? Why would they trade a cheaper RD for a more expensive player they don’t need?

Don’t be ridiculous.
19 sept. à 17 h 43
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Where would he play in CAR’s lineup? Why would they trade a cheaper RD for a more expensive player they don’t need?

Don’t be ridiculous.


Pearson would take the 3LW spot over Stastny
19 sept. à 17 h 44
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Pearson would take the 3LW spot over Stastny


Doubt it. Statsny>Pearson
19 sept. à 17 h 45
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Doubt it. Statsny>Pearson


LMAO, are you kidding me??? Pearson is much younger than Stastny
19 sept. à 17 h 46
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LMAO, are you kidding me??? Pearson is much younger than Stastny


When did I mention age? It isn't like either of them would be staying long term in Carolina anyway
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LMAO, are you kidding me??? Pearson is much younger than Stastny


Stastny has vastly outperformed Pearson, even with his age. He’s more versatile and signed for half the price.

Try again.
19 sept. à 17 h 47
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When did I mention age? It isn't like either of them would be staying long term in Carolina anyway


Maybe not, but with Stastny there is a major age related risk factor. That risk doesn't exist with Pearson, hence why he makes more money
19 sept. à 17 h 48
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Stastny has vastly outperformed Pearson, even with his age. He’s more versatile and signed for half the price.

Try again.


How did he outperform Pearson? They scored at about the same pace last year. The only reason Stastny costs half as much is because he's older
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How did he outperform Pearson? They scored at about the same pace last year. The only reason Stastny costs half as much is because he's older


Stastny 21 goals 45 points. Pearson isn't taking his spot
 
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