full UFA TDL sell

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Créé par: Tintin

Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey

Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2022

Publié: 19 sept. 2022

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bulju for McLeod and Bastian added cus there's this one Oilers fan that post it once per day

Canucks trade is basically obligatory when making a NJD agm at this point

I don't rate the Blues current LHD, but i did the trade before considering the possibility of Perunovich growing into a 2nd pairing role which doesn't seem too unlikely to me.
if Graves isn't a fit for the Blues I'm sure someone will let me know, value does seem fair for a top4 LHD at 1.6m however.

Tatar at 2.25m for a playoff berth seems to be worth a mid rd pick to me, would canes be a candidate to take him at TDL?

Johnsson would be a decent low cost buy for the Kraken (or any team really) if they were in the WC races and in need for some additional forward depth

I love Robertsson, a lot of Leafs fans on here seem to love Wood.
lets make this happen

haula for a 3rd seems reasonable, Jets didn't seem like the worst destination for him either

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Hughes, Luke		3	950 000 $

Transactions

NJD

Garland, Conor

VAN

Severson, Damon

NJD

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (STL)

STL

Graves, Ryan (1 583 333 $ retained)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

NJD

Puljujärvi, Jesse

EDM

Bastian, Nathan
McLeod, Michael
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)

NJD

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PHI)

CAR

Tatar, Tomas (2 250 000 $ retained)

NJD

Robertson, Nicholas

TOR

Wood, Miles (1 600 000 $ retained)

NJD

Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (SEA)

SEA

Johnsson, Andreas

NJD

Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WPG)

WPG

Haula, Erik

Rachats de contrats

Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
Janne Kuokkanen: 200 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Ryan Graves: 1 583 333 $ (50%)
Tomas Tatar: 2 250 000 $ (50%)
Miles Wood: 1 600 000 $ (50%)

Frais appliqués

Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	78 982 459 $	0 $	1 382 500 $	3 517 541 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 3	Hughes, Jack 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C UFA - 8	Palat, Ondrej 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 5
Sharangovich, Yegor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Hischier, Nico 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C UFA - 5	Bratt, Jesper 5 450 000 $5 450 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4		Puljujärvi, Jesse 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
	Mercer, Dawson 894 167 $894 167 $ (400 000 $$400K) AD, C RFA - 2	Zetterlund, Fabian 750 000 $750 000 $ AD RFA - 1
	Boqvist, Jesper 874 125 $874 125 $ C, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Siegenthaler, Jonas 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Vanecek, Vitek 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 3
Hughes, Luke 950 000 $950 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 3	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Smith, Brendan 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DG/DD, AG UFA - 2	Walsh, Reilly 925 000 $925 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Thompson, Tyce 762 500 $762 500 $ AD RFA - 2	Bernier, Jonathan 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ G UFA - 1
Foote, Nolan 863 333 $863 333 $ AG RFA - 2
Okhotiuk, Nikita 789 167 $789 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) DG RFA - 2

Équipe de réserve
Clarke, Graeme 850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) AD, C RFA - 2
Dugan, Jack 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG UFA - 1
Nemec, Simon 950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD RFA - 4
Bahl, Kevin 795 000 $795 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 1
Vilén, Topias 859 167 $859 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG RFA - 4
Mukhamadullin, Shakir 894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (400 000 $$400K) DG RFA - 3

19 sept. 2022 à 5 h 33

theleano1

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Canucks pass we aren't trading a top 6 forward for a rental

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19 sept. 2022 à 5 h 50

SupremeBone

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There are likely some that disagree, but I do it from EDM's POV.

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19 sept. 2022 à 6 h 28

TheTypicalLeafsFan

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Leafs pass

19 sept. 2022 à 7 h 25

evelutions2

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If the Canes hasn’t signed Stastny, I think they would have Gina after Tatar half retained. The only problem is when Patches gets back, Tatar would be forced to play on the 4th line. Necas is already looking like he will get dropped to the 4th line when Patches comes back, so that would essentially make Tatar one of 2 things. 1) he is Kase insurance, or 2) he is the 13th/14th forward. If the Canes make any moves at the deadline outside of their big reacquisition of Patches, it would probably be to get a depth goalie for a playoff run. They already have their depth options for forwards in Stepan and Pederson, and on defense it would be Chatfield and Bear, since Coghlan will more than likely be the mainstay 3RD. So acquiring Tatar is a bit pointless for the Canes to do.

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19 sept. 2022 à 8 h 37

Erkadurk347

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The value of players is not the same as a few years ago. These guys with high caps and one year left are worth negative value. This is a flat cap world, and it’s way harder to trade players now

19 sept. 2022 à 8 h 52

CD282

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Quoting: SupremeBone

There are likely some that disagree, but I do it from EDM's POV.

I wouldn't. It nets Edmonton some cap space but two bottom of the roster types is a pretty piss poor return.

19 sept. 2022 à 8 h 52

NHLfan10506

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VAN - Fine with it, although I like the pieces from Ottawa too (for Severson swap)
STL - Made more sense if they had not extended Leddy. My guess of Graves possible destinations: Florida, Los Angeles (maybe Colorado if they more Girard)
EDM - Alright, sign me up. But if Oilers are buying at deadline, might it be more futures-oriented deal? This looks like off-season swap.
CAR - If Tatar gets a 3rd, I'm down. It would more likely be an older prospect or later pick. (Maybe Bok, who loses waiver exemption next year)
TOR - Wood's value is very, very low right now. He would have to return to 100% health and 2020 form to get this return.
SEA - Done (but I think Johnsson finishes year here)
WPG - Would be surprised if Jets are buying rentals. I suppose they could be if everything falls into line.

Will attempt my own UFA TDL scenario. See what you think.

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19 sept. 2022 à 9 h 2

dickie_boon

yotes own canada

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blues have all of krug leddy perunovich and mikkola on the left side so no but not bad valuewise makes more sense for another team

19 sept. 2022 à 9 h 5

SupremeBone

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Quoting: CD282

I wouldn't. It nets Edmonton some cap space but two bottom of the roster types is a pretty piss poor return.

Cap space that avoids us having to pay to move cap, a 2nd round pick which could net another Kulak through the year, and two young, quality bottom-6 fowards isn't a poor return. That is, unless you're either very high on Puljujarvi or don't value what McLeod and Bastian showed last year (a combination of size, speed, FOs, physicality, and decent scoring in a very defensively-focused role). I think we've been over this a number of times, though, so there's no sense beating the dead horse.

19 sept. 2022 à 9 h 42

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mokumboi

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Yeah, the Blues already have LDs falling out of their ears and no cap.

19 sept. 2022 à 10 h 16

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NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Erkadurk347

The value of players is not the same as a few years ago. These guys with high caps and one year left are worth negative value. This is a flat cap world, and it’s way harder to trade players now

Players in their final year rarely have negative value. Maybe during Summer before....or if they are dead weight (ie, Richard Panik, John Moore)

But "negative" hits are mostly from how many off-seasons a team has to endure with that player on roster. Pending UFAs who would still be on 23-man rosters should be negative.

Besides, Tatar at $2.25 million, Wood at $1.6 million?
Those numbers are easily to absorb at deadline when only 20% of the season remains.
I would say about 28 or 29 teams would be able to fit those hits at deadline.

19 sept. 2022 à 10 h 18

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Erkadurk347

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Wood doesn’t have negative value. Tatar and Johnsson do imo. They would’ve moved one of those two by now if it didn’t cost anything

19 sept. 2022 à 10 h 27

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Leafs easily accept

19 sept. 2022 à 10 h 59

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NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Erkadurk347

Wood doesn’t have negative value. Tatar and Johnsson do imo. They would’ve moved one of those two by now if it didn’t cost anything

Devils haven’t needed the cap space, and both are In final years. So no reason to pay to move them.

Besides, pending UFAs rarely have negative value. First, one year of cap is easy to manage. Second, if you are adding a big number, it’s likely via trade and you can always ship salary back. Third, that cap is off the books when next round of contracts are due in July.

There have been a bunch of cap dump trades in recent years. But all of them had contracts whose term spanned at least one free agency period (most were multi-year).

So while Johnsson and Tatar may not get many offers because they are so-so players, they would not be dumped with assets. They just wouldn’t be traded.

19 sept. 2022 à 11 h 20

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Quoting: theleano1

Canucks pass we aren't trading a top 6 forward for a rental

The Canucks would be missing a rather good opportunity, but clearly they would struggle to come up with enough cap space for both Horvat and Severson next season, as well as Petterson the following year. Unfortunate for them.

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full UFA TDL sell

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NJD

VAN

NJD

STL

NJD

EDM

NJD

CAR

NJD

TOR

NJD

SEA

NJD

WPG

Rachats de contrats

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