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Créé par: Knuckl3s
Publié: 19 sept. 2022 à 4 h 10
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 184/185 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Red Wings de DetroitRed Wings de Detroit

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Rasmussen, MichaelRed Wings de DetroitLNH-1 452 108 $011---0000--
Buium, ShaiRed Wings de DetroitListe de réserve-0 $001---------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Blues de St-LouisSTL)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Barbashev, IvanBlues de St-LouisLNH-2 237 838 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial8 171 111 $2345783713
Variation-785 730 $00-10-10
Final7 385 381 $ (↓)234577 (↓)36 (↓)13000

Logo de Blues de St-LouisBlues de St-Louis

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Barbashev, IvanBlues de St-LouisLNH-2 237 838 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Rasmussen, MichaelRed Wings de DetroitLNH-1 452 108 $011---0000--
Buium, ShaiRed Wings de DetroitListe de réserve-0 $001---------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Blues de St-LouisSTL)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial625 000 $2247643512
Variation785 730 $001010
Final1 410 730 $ (↑)224765 (↑)36 (↑)12000
19 sept. 2022 à 6 h 39
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I think this is quite a big overpay and there really isn't a good spot to slot him in.
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19 sept. 2022 à 8 h 3
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I doubt St Louis would trade Barbashev alone for Rasmussen. Rasmussen is bigger and younger but Barbashev isn't small is just entering his prime and had more than twice as many points last year.
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19 sept. 2022 à 17 h 0
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I think this is quite a big overpay and there really isn't a good spot to slot him in.


Overpay for Barbashev? Get real
20 sept. 2022 à 22 h 22
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Overpay for Barbashev? Get real


Sorry I should clarify myself. It's an overpay for Detroit because the red wings are not a contender. They should've be giving a decent amount of their future for a 1 year solid rental that many playoff contending teams would love. Red wings are still in their rebuild... Nearing the end I believe but not yet so Yzerman would say no to this. He has many times said he's not gonna rush this rebuild and this trade goes exactly against what he says.

EDIT: The ONLY way he trades for Barbashev is if he believes at the TDL he can get more for him then he traded for, and if he fills a role. See the Leddy trades as a reference which STL Blues fans should be aware of...
20 sept. 2022 à 22 h 34
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Sorry I should clarify myself. It's an overpay for Detroit because the red wings are not a contender. They should've be giving a decent amount of their future for a 1 year solid rental that many playoff contending teams would love. Red wings are still in their rebuild... Nearing the end I believe but not yet so Yzerman would say no to this. He has many times said he's not gonna rush this rebuild and this trade goes exactly against what he says.

EDIT: The ONLY way he trades for Barbashev is if he believes at the TDL he can get more for him then he traded for, and if he fills a role. See the Leddy trades as a reference which STL Blues fans should be aware of...


You don't think Barbashev would want to commit long-term to the wings?
20 sept. 2022 à 22 h 37
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You don't think Barbashev would want to commit long-term to the wings?


Ok fair enough if there was a trade and immediately sign deal in place then it might be different but still he's not exactly in our winning window and would want a solid money/term contract so I would have to say no, unless he gives us a cheaper option than resigning Bert
20 sept. 2022 à 22 h 38
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Ok fair enough if there was a trade and immediately sign deal in place then it might be different but still he's not exactly in our winning window and would want a solid money/term contract so I would have to say no.


Barbashev doesn't fit the winning window of the team? Maybe not as a core guy, but how about as an experienced vet with championship pedigree? Just like Sunny
20 sept. 2022 à 22 h 59
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Well if Detroit think barbashev is really that guy who scored 60 pts last year and I'm not convinced he is, then yeah I think you do this deal. Its a tough deal though. Youd want to see if the productuon is real before you resign him long term but if he gets to the end of the season unsigned you're screwed.
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