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One Last Trade

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 sept. 2022
Publié: 18 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Thoughts?

Cap works for both teams. Leafs get a good NHL ready prospect. Calgary get a good top 9 player to compliment their team.

I think this works quite well actually!
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
11 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
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  1. Ruzicka, Adam [Droits de RFA]
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2282 500 000 $81 827 283 $212 500 $0 $672 717 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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18 sept. 2022 à 17 h 14
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That’s definitely not happening. Treliving be ROFLHAO

Sandin won’t sign for anything less than $1.4mil guaranteed
18 sept. 2022 à 17 h 16
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That’s definitely not happening. Treliving be ROFLHAO


Do explain why Treliving would be laughing at this proposal? Is it Ruzicka's potential? Calgary gets the better and more proven player here. He would really make their team better.

Of course, if Ruzicka has a crazy high ceiling and they see that, they may still say no.
18 sept. 2022 à 17 h 21
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Do explain why Treliving would be laughing at this proposal? Is it Ruzicka's potential? Calgary gets the better and more proven player here. He would really make their team better.

Of course, if Ruzicka has a crazy high ceiling and they see that, they may still say no.

Yes, Ruzicka is a very good young RFA player under team control that can play just as well as Kerfoot at 1/3 the cost for the next 3 years

Kerfoot would simply be a rental who CGY would only consider 50-75% retained. CGY has Dube, Ruzicka & Pelletier >= Kerfoot. Pretty sure Kerfoot signs a $4mil+ contract next season, which CGY wouldn’t be interested in at all

I like Kerfoot but only at $2mil/yr or less
18 sept. 2022 à 17 h 35
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Kerfoot still has value, I don't understand why people act like he's a cap dump. There's definitely a nice place for him in the middle 6, and he plays the PK. That said, I do think TOR would have to add at least something given contract situations of both players involved. It's incredibly unlikely that he would re-sign. I also think CGY is probably better off offloading a d-man for an even better player. Still, I can see them being trade partners here.
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18 sept. 2022 à 17 h 41
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Yes, Ruzicka is a very good young RFA player under team control that can play just as well as Kerfoot at 1/3 the cost for the next 3 years

Kerfoot would simply be a rental who CGY would only consider 50-75% retained. CGY has Dube, Ruzicka & Pelletier >= Kerfoot. Pretty sure Kerfoot signs a $4mil+ contract next season, which CGY wouldn’t be interested in at all

I like Kerfoot but only at $2mil/yr or less


Kerfoot only holds a cap hit of 3.5 million. He's only owed 750k throughout the season which makes him more valuable.
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Kerfoot only holds a cap hit of 3.5 million. He's only owed 750k throughout the season which makes him more valuable.

How so? His Cap Hit remains $3.5mil which is far more important and a much bigger concern for teams

Only a Cap Floor team will value the actual cost being substantially less. They might charge less to take on his cap hit but won’t pay any more to acquire him, so only value would be in finding a team to retain on him should be easier, which I’ve pitched already but everyone was so upset that there’s a restriction of only 3 retention slots max, so they’re valuable and won’t be used till the Trade Deadline regardless of how low the actual cost is
18 sept. 2022 à 18 h 19
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Kerfoot still has value, I don't understand why people act like he's a cap dump. There's definitely a nice place for him in the middle 6, and he plays the PK. That said, I do think TOR would have to add at least something given contract situations of both players involved. It's incredibly unlikely that he would re-sign. I also think CGY is probably better off offloading a d-man for an even better player. Still, I can see them being trade partners here.

I agree, Kerfoot isn’t a Cap Dump, but his Cap Hit makes him extremely less attractive for a Contending Team near the Cap to take him on

Teams with Cap Space want to be compensated for taking Big Cap Hits on, otherwise would prefer to keep a roster spot open to develop one of their prospects as opposed to letting someone they very likely won’t keep or re-sign once the season is over fill it
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How so? His Cap Hit remains $3.5mil which is far more important and a much bigger concern for teams

Only a Cap Floor team will value the actual cost being substantially less. They might charge less to take on his cap hit but won’t pay any more to acquire him, so only value would be in finding a team to retain on him should be easier, which I’ve pitched already but everyone was so upset that there’s a restriction of only 3 retention slots max, so they’re valuable and won’t be used till the Trade Deadline regardless of how low the actual cost is


For a team that's ownership group that's forcing the city to build a new arena while they give minimal resources, saving every dollar matters. That's what makes Kerfoot contract valuable.

Look at previous contracts handed out to Flames stars minimal signing bonuses are included (guaranteed money incase of a buyout). The only player that has received a contract like that is Huberdeau which kicks in next year.

Also even if you try to knack on Kerfoot as a player, he came of a 50 point season where all his points came 5v5 or on the pk. On top of that he plays all 3 forward positions. If Jarkrok get 2.1 million for 20 goals and 35 points Kerfoot easily on the open market is 4-4.5 million in value.
18 sept. 2022 à 18 h 49
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Yes, Ruzicka is a very good young RFA player under team control that can play just as well as Kerfoot at 1/3 the cost for the next 3 years

Kerfoot would simply be a rental who CGY would only consider 50-75% retained. CGY has Dube, Ruzicka & Pelletier >= Kerfoot. Pretty sure Kerfoot signs a $4mil+ contract next season, which CGY wouldn’t be interested in at all

I like Kerfoot but only at $2mil/yr or less


Are you crazy??? You think Ruzicka is going to put up 50 points without an PP time and play a massive role on the PK? If you believe in Pelletier as a top nine forward I understand why Calgary wouldn’t do this but as leafs fans will know from Robertson, AHL success even at a young age doesn’t necessarily translate to NHL success. This seems to me like a steal for Calgary but the leafs might be forced into making a move like this
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For a team that's ownership group that's forcing the city to build a new arena while they give minimal resources, saving every dollar matters. That's what makes Kerfoot contract valuable.

Look at previous contracts handed out to Flames stars minimal signing bonuses are included (guaranteed money incase of a buyout). The only player that has received a contract like that is Huberdeau which kicks in next year.

Also even if you try to knack on Kerfoot as a player, he came of a 50 point season where all his points came 5v5 or on the pk. On top of that he plays all 3 forward positions. If Jarkrok get 2.1 million for 20 goals and 35 points Kerfoot easily on the open market is 4-4.5 million in value.

I don't disagree with your assessment of Kerfoot, but without at least $1.5mil in retention, I don't think CGY would be interested at all. Why TOR signed Jarnkrok for that much boggles my mind. You'd think they had a plan to move Kerfoot out already before signing Calle. Anyways, I hope he plays better for TOR than he did for CGY, just not against us of course Winking with Tongue Out

Sounds like you need to strike a deal with Arizona on Kerfoot, cause if you're talking about the Arena fiasco in CGY, that's simply Politics and Negotiation Tactics/Strategies going on. Shame on the Mayor of Calgary for reneging or trying to alter a previously agreed too contract. I don't blame the Flames for walking away from the negotiation table and calling their bluff. That's just bad ethics by the City of Calgary and again, specifically their Mayor and the arena isn't solely for the Flames benefit either, it's for the entire City, bringing their Citizens decent Entertainment as well as to attract International Business Events

And yes, Kerfoot will be looking for a raise up to at least $4mil/yr. If he could improve his Size, Strength and Faceoff %, he would be in even Greater Demand and Significantly More Valuable
18 sept. 2022 à 19 h 21
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I agree, Kerfoot isn’t a Cap Dump, but his Cap Hit makes him extremely less attractive for a Contending Team near the Cap to take him on

Teams with Cap Space want to be compensated for taking Big Cap Hits on, otherwise would prefer to keep a roster spot open to develop one of their prospects as opposed to letting someone they very likely won’t keep or re-sign once the season is over fill it


CGY has nothing else to spend for this year, though? It would just be Ruzicka. I assume Valimaki would be dealt whenever Tanev is back. Kerfoot expires this year, so there's really not much issue, outside of potential TDL stuff, but that could be handled then
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Are you crazy??? You think Ruzicka is going to put up 50 points without an PP time and play a massive role on the PK? If you believe in Pelletier as a top nine forward I understand why Calgary wouldn’t do this but as leafs fans will know from Robertson, AHL success even at a young age doesn’t necessarily translate to NHL success. This seems to me like a steal for Calgary but the leafs might be forced into making a move like this

Nope, haven't been diagnosed that way yet, but yes, Ruzicka could. Let's break it down why don't we by looking at their Even Strength Play:

Ruzicka 5G + 5A = 10 Point in 28 Games BUT with only 280 minutes played = 9:59ATOI = 2.14PTS/60 minutes played
Kerfoot 13G + 34A = 47 Points in 82 Games BUT with 1097 minutes played = 13:22ATOI = 2.57PTS/60 minutes played

Now before you get all excited that Kerfoot's number is slightly better, keep in mind Kerfoot was playing primarily 2nd line minutes with guys like Tavares & Nylander, whereas Ruzicka was primarily a 4th line C with low scoring Milan Lucic & Trevor Lewis on his Wings. Therefore I would expect given the same Even Strength TOI and with Superior Line Mates, Ruzicka would have done much Better than Kerfoot, he's simply More Offensively Talented. I'll give Kerfoot has More Experience and is of Greater Value on the PK, but I'd keep Ruzicka at his Cap Hit over Kerfoot all day long and he's a Younger, Much Bigger, Plays Centre and can actually Win Faceoffs

In 20GP, Robertson has 2 Goals + 1 Assist for 3 Points and is a -4 whereas in 31GP, Ruzicka has 5 Goals + 7 Assists for 12 Points and is a +10. One has proven he's NHL Ready, whereas the other still has work to do, so there's really no comparison there at this time
18 sept. 2022 à 19 h 30
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CGY has nothing else to spend for this year, though? It would just be Ruzicka. I assume Valimaki would be dealt whenever Tanev is back. Kerfoot expires this year, so there's really not much issue, outside of potential TDL stuff, but that could be handled then

If we could get a Team or 2 to retain 43-75% on Kerfoot, CGY would be happy to have him in exchange for a Pick or Prospect and would simply demote Pelletier back down to the AHL. Otherwise we're likely not interested and certainly not for Ruzicka, who is substantially more valuable than 1 Season of Kerfoot

Tanev will be ready for the Start of the Season. One of Valimaki or Mackey likely gets Traded after Training Camp, otherwise there's still a chance Kylington gets moved by then as well
18 sept. 2022 à 19 h 41
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Calgary really doesn't have the cap for 3.5m Kerfoot. I think Kerfoot is a nice fit in Calgary...or a lot of teams, but trading him with no or little cap returned to list and his M NTC, makes him a difficult trade.
 
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