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Flames fan proposal on twitter

Créé par: mv21227
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 18 sept. 2022
Publié: 18 sept. 2022
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https://twitter.com/bigflamesguy1/status/1571208836777930753?s=46&t=yY5NZ8g4X1Nd2U6XFd0Dzg

Don’t see a reason the Canucks would do this, but wanna see what other people think
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18 sept. 2022 à 13 h 35
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Haha no
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18 sept. 2022 à 13 h 36
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Someone ban that man now


Chill it’s only a joke
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18 sept. 2022 à 13 h 37
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Haha no


After every Canucks fan told him no he then tweeted “Nucks fans are the dumbest fan”
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18 sept. 2022 à 13 h 37
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pre Kadri, it might make sense
18 sept. 2022 à 13 h 43
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This is terrible for Vancouver
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18 sept. 2022 à 13 h 51
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This is just real bad for both sides
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18 sept. 2022 à 14 h 0
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Wouldn’t trade Podkolzin for Hanifin. We just don’t need him and Podkolzin is hopefully a Canuck for life
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18 sept. 2022 à 14 h 29
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Flames get the better value, but neither Team has a strong need for any these players. CGY has Dube & Kadri and VAN has Ekholm & Hughes already. Flames would be more interested in Garland, but VAN probably shouldn't Trade any of their Right Shot RW's

I don't think VAN & CGY are good Trade Partners. I was looking at moving Russian Prospect Ilya Nikolayev to VAN for one of their prospects, but couldn't come up with anything that made sense. I like Arshdeep Bains, but I highly doubt he, nor the Canucks organization, want to part ways
18 sept. 2022 à 14 h 35
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If hanifin was a rd I could see some traction
18 sept. 2022 à 14 h 44
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If hanifin was a rd I could see some traction


Is it worth trading our captain and future #1 winger? If Hanifin was an RHD then I would offer Garland but not Horvat or Podz
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18 sept. 2022 à 14 h 52
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Is it worth trading our captain and future #1 winger? If Hanifin was an RHD then I would offer Garland but not Horvat or Podz


I think that all depends if horvat is coming back or not.
18 sept. 2022 à 15 h 11
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another LHD, exactly what the Canucks need right
18 sept. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: pritpalsodhi
another LHD, exactly what the Canucks need right


You mean exactly what the Canucks need left?
18 sept. 2022 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This is just real bad for both sides


This is amazing for Calgary. They have Zadorov, Kylington, Weegar and Valimaki who can all play the left side. Canucks get another left D, something they don't need, while trading away they best young player and an amazing 2C. Calgary trades away a defence man, something they have an excess of, and gets two very good forwards, something they need.
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18 sept. 2022 à 21 h 21
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This is amazing for Calgary. They have Zadorov, Kylington, Weegar and Valimaki who can all play the left side. Canucks get another left D, something they don't need, while trading away they best young player and an amazing 2C. Calgary trades away a defence man, something they have an excess of, and gets two very good forwards, something they need.


Huh? Hanifin is the most valuable piece in the trade. Not sure what pointing out Calgary's LD depth does when they clearly don't need centers either
18 sept. 2022 à 21 h 48
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Huh? Hanifin is the most valuable piece in the trade. Not sure what pointing out Calgary's LD depth does when they clearly don't need centers either


Good 2C value > good 2nd pair LHD value.

Podkolzin’s value depends how you feel about his potential, I’m high on him and wouldn’t move him for Hanifin personally (also partly because he’s a LHD that isn’t a need for the Canucks)
18 sept. 2022 à 23 h 24
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Good 2C value > good 2nd pair LHD value.

Podkolzin’s value depends how you feel about his potential, I’m high on him and wouldn’t move him for Hanifin personally (also partly because he’s a LHD that isn’t a need for the Canucks)


2nd pairing D? That's troll. He's a top 25 dman in the league.

50 point 1st pairing 2-way dman with 2 years of term > 60 point 2-way 2C with 1 year remaining

Pod definitely makes the value in a vacuum favor the Flames bit you clearly underappreciate the effect Hanifin has
18 sept. 2022 à 23 h 27
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2nd pairing D? That's troll. He's a top 25 dman in the league.

50 point 1st pairing 2-way dman with 2 years of term > 60 point 2-way 2C with 1 year remaining

Pod definitely makes the value in a vacuum favor the Flames bit you clearly underappreciate the effect Hanifin has


While the value is debatable, Horvat as our captain, and Podkolzin's incredibly high ceiling is more valuable than adding another LHD, especially when they will likely be in the shadow of Quinn Hughes
18 sept. 2022 à 23 h 29
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While the value is debatable, Horvat as our captain, and Podkolzin's incredibly high ceiling is more valuable than adding another LHD, especially when they will likely be in the shadow of Quinn Hughes


I said it was bad for both teams at the start
18 sept. 2022 à 23 h 31
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2nd pairing D? That's troll. He's a top 25 dman in the league.

50 point 1st pairing 2-way dman with 2 years of term > 60 point 2-way 2C with 1 year remaining

Pod definitely makes the value in a vacuum favor the Flames bit you clearly underappreciate the effect Hanifin has


He’s been close to 50 points once in his career. He’s been more of a 25-30 point dman. He’s a good player, but for the Canucks Horvat and Podz probably have more value to them than Hanifin would
18 sept. 2022 à 23 h 37
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He’s been close to 50 points once in his career. He’s been more of a 25-30 point dman. He’s a good player, but for the Canucks Horvat and Podz probably have more value to them than Hanifin would


I agree on the value, I said that in the 3rd paragraph of the post you just quoted.

However you still undervalue Hanifin a lot. He's simply worth more than Bo in a vacuum. And he will almost certainly be a ~50 dman moving forward for a while
18 sept. 2022 à 23 h 41
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I agree on the value, I said that in the 3rd paragraph of the post you just quoted.

However you still undervalue Hanifin a lot. He's simply worth more than Bo in a vacuum. And he will almost certainly be a ~50 dman moving forward for a while


I meant individually Horvat and Podz each have more value to the Canucks. Trading for Hanifin forces one of him/Hughes/OEL to play on their off side, which isn’t ideal. Keeping Horvat gives us flexibility to run 3 great centers, and Podz is a valuable ELC player with very high upside
19 sept. 2022 à 0 h 40
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I meant individually Horvat and Podz each have more value to the Canucks. Trading for Hanifin forces one of him/Hughes/OEL to play on their off side, which isn’t ideal. Keeping Horvat gives us flexibility to run 3 great centers, and Podz is a valuable ELC player with very high upside


Im not saying it's a good trade for the Canucks jfc
19 sept. 2022 à 4 h 18
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You can't be serious. Both Horvat and Podkolzin are individually worth more than Hanifin to the Canucks
19 sept. 2022 à 15 h 21
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Huh? Hanifin is the most valuable piece in the trade. Not sure what pointing out Calgary's LD depth does when they clearly don't need centers either


Technically they don't need centres cause they have Lindholm, Kadri and Backlund who have the ability to play centre, but their wings could be improved on with Toffoli and Mangiapane and Coleman, Coleman being the weak link. They could switch lindholm to right wing and have Hub-Kadri-Lindholm, Mangiapane-Horvat-Toffoli, Coleman-Backlund-Dube.
 
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