This is what I think the lines will look like and how each player will perform, along with the team.
Record: 46-30-6, miss playoffs by 3 points
Beauvillier: 24-30-54 in 82, 3.8 GAR on 17.55 TOI
Barzal: 21-48-69 in 82, 7.2 GAR on 19.08 TOI
Palmieri: 26-20-46 in 82, 5.8 GAR on 18.21 TOI
Lee: 29-27-56 in 82, 2.6 GAR on 18.01 TOI
Nelson: 30-30-60 in 82, 9.2 GAR on 18.08 TOI
Wahlstrom: 24-18-42 in 74, 4.1 GAR on 15.50 TOI
Bellows: 14-19-33 in 58, 1.6 GAR on 12.48 TOI
Pageau: 19-23-42 in 77, 2.2 GAR on 15.42
Bailey: 13-36-49 in 78, 1.0 GAR and 16.22 TOI
Parise: 18-13-31 in 70, 5.1 GAR and 12.55 TOI
Cizikas: 14-18-32 in 82, 0.5 GAR and 15.21 TOI
Clutterbuck: 4-11-15 in 66, -2.6 GAR and 13.31 TOI
Martin: 2-2-4 in 28, -1.1 GAR and 11.42 TOI
Johnston: 0-4-4 in 18, 0 GAR and 11.22 TOI
Raty: 1-8-9 in 13, 1.9 GAR and 14.45 TOI
Dufour: 0-1-1 in 6, -0.5 GAR and 12.21 TOI
Holmstrom: 0-1-1 in 2, 0.1 GAR and 9.42 TOI
Panik: 1-0-1 in 2, -0.5 GAR and 11.05 TOI
Notes:
- Martin and Johnston fill in on 4th line for injuries and Parise moves up into top 9
- Raty comes up at end of season to get NHL experience; Dufour and Holmstrom come up for the injuries that last 1-2 games
- Panik comes up for bottom 6 injuries
Pelech: 6-20-26 in 82, 14.6 GAR and 24.46 TOI
Puloch: 7-51-58 in 82, 13.8 GAR and 23.31 TOI
Romanov: 4-18-22 in 82, 4.8 GAR and 19.42 TOI
Dobson: 17-50-67 in 82, 11.9 GAR and 22.13 TOI
Salo: 6-13-19 in 65, 1.1 GAR and 17.08 TOI
Mayfield: 5-12-17 in 52, 3.8 GAR and 15.26 TOI
Aho: 1-3-4 in 17, -3.4 GAR and 15.22 TOI
Hutton: 0-2-2 in 18, -1.1 GAR and 14.22 TOI
Wilde: 1-3-4 in 11, 0.6 GAR and 13.58 TOI
LaDue: 0-0-0 in 1, 0.0 GAR and 12.24 TOI
Notes:
- Dobson takes the big next step
- Mayfield gets traded at TDL to top contender for first + small assets
Anyone who knows me on these boards knows I'm able to pull my bias from my team. I'm the first to call my team on on their deficiencies.
Mayfield is a top three overvalued player on capfriendly. Plain and simple. Rutta played top pairing minutes with Hedman. Does that mean I think he's a top four dman? NOPE!
My man I normally agree with you, but Mayfield isn’t exactly a popular guy when other teams face him in the playoffs. Ask TBL fans how they feel about his Kucherov elbow lol. Meanwhile they pretend Rutta didn’t flop like a soccer player after instigating a fight with Barzy. It’s nothing personal man, but I think people are blinded by that kind of stuff.
It’s like saying that I hate Trouba, but in reality I’d love him if he was on my team.
My point is your argument makes no sense. Just because a team is willing to put players where they shouldn't be doesn't mean they belong there.
Mayfield is not a top pairing dman. He's an average 2nd pairing dman at best. That's all.
My point is that the analytics, the eye test, and his playoff track record disagree with your assessment lmao. Dude has played top four for five years, he made the playoffs four times and the ECF twice.
Sometimes I think people forget Trotz wasn’t suiting up for the isles, his system only worked cause he had some high end talent in premium positions. He never had good wingers, but that’s about it.
He’s on the same level as Manson. Maybe he’s worse offensively, but he makes up for it in his own end. It’s weird how other fanbases like to say the isles overvalue Mayfield and Varly, but then get mad when we won’t take a bag of blue pucks for them. It’s almost like a lot of people out there think that pretending Mayfield isn’t worth much on capfriendly will impact the real world. It’s embarrassing.
This is exactly how I feel about other fanbases and their valuation of Habs players (and yes I know this has nothing to do with MTL but it's a forum discussion so w/e I'm saying it lol)
I like the player Petry was. Not the player he is and will be for the next three years. And I’m not a huge fan of Ty Smith.
Yes and the Marino deal was not great, but Marino is substantially better than either Chiarot and Mayfield. My point is just because one trade like that happens, i.e. Chiarot, doesn't mean Mayfield is getting the same. Chiarot had a lot of cache because of MTL's cup run and was overvalued by GM's on that one.
Also, my analytics I just showed you pretty much blow up the argument. Mayfield's numbers are very average and in some cases well below average. Holl SHOULD be valued higher than Mayfield.
Yes and the Marino deal was not great, but Marino is substantially better than either Chiarot and Mayfield. My point is just because one trade like that happens, i.e. Chiarot, doesn't mean Mayfield is getting the same. Chiarot had a lot of cache because of MTL's cup run and was overvalued by GM's on that one.
Mayfield made back to back ECF’s and multiple teams called about him last deadline. I’m fairly confident in the idea he’s worth what Manson or Chiarot got last year.
Mayfield made back to back ECF’s and multiple teams called about him last deadline. I’m fairly confident in the idea he’s worth what Manson or Chiarot got last year.
And you keep ignoring the factual proof I showed you above. His numbers are average to below average.
Mayfield made back to back ECF’s and multiple teams called about him last deadline. I’m fairly confident in the idea he’s worth what Manson or Chiarot got last year.
I didn’t c quality of teammates or competition on there
I tried finding his WAR card from Jfresh, but couldn't find one. But, this only shows based on the fact Mayfield played in a role he shouldn't his numbers suffered and weren't as good as you thought. If he was in a more sheltered role, like I stated he should be, you'd see an improvement.
Mayfield last year gets a 1st as he would not have been a rental, but the acquiring team would have him for 2 playoffs.
This year if traded Mayfield returns a 2nd and a 3rd, maybe 2 2nds. Comparable trades from the 2022 trade deadline include:
Hamonic went for a 3rd, Mayfield is better and Cheaper.
Chiarot went for a 1st (this was an overpay), Mayfield is equivalent and cheaper.
Dermott went for a 3rd, Mayfield is better.
Giordano went for 2 2nds, Mayfield is equivalent and cheaper.
Lauzon went for a 2nd, Mayfield is better.
Braun went for a 3rd, Mayfield is better.
I didn’t c quality of teammates or competition on there
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This is Holl's and it shows he's an average 2nd pairing dman, high-end 3rd. Very different style dman than Mayfield, but they're both in the same quality category of dmen.
Mayfield last year gets a 1st as he would not have been a rental, but the acquiring team would have him for 2 playoffs.
This year if traded Mayfield returns a 2nd and a 3rd, maybe 2 2nds. Comparable trades from the 2022 trade deadline include:
Hamonic went for a 3rd, Mayfield is better and Cheaper.
Chiarot went for a 1st (this was an overpay), Mayfield is equivalent and cheaper.
Dermott went for a 3rd, Mayfield is better.
Giordano went for 2 2nds, Mayfield is equivalent and cheaper.
Lauzon went for a 2nd, Mayfield is better.
Braun went for a 3rd, Mayfield is better.
Mayfield does not get a 1st at any point.
Also, Gio is still heads and tails better than Mayfield.
This is Holl's and
it shows he's an average 2nd pairing dman, high-end 3rd. Very different style dman than Mayfield, but they're both in the same quality category of dmen.
Look at Holls QOT, Mayfields is well below that and his QOC is in the 99th percentile. Mayfields reputation is much higher than Holls which is what matters. Mayfield could probably return a few 2nds or a 1st straight up.
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