This is what I think the lines will look like and how each player will perform, along with the team.
Record: 46-30-6, miss playoffs by 3 points
Beauvillier: 24-30-54 in 82, 3.8 GAR on 17.55 TOI
Barzal: 21-48-69 in 82, 7.2 GAR on 19.08 TOI
Palmieri: 26-20-46 in 82, 5.8 GAR on 18.21 TOI
Lee: 29-27-56 in 82, 2.6 GAR on 18.01 TOI
Nelson: 30-30-60 in 82, 9.2 GAR on 18.08 TOI
Wahlstrom: 24-18-42 in 74, 4.1 GAR on 15.50 TOI
Bellows: 14-19-33 in 58, 1.6 GAR on 12.48 TOI
Pageau: 19-23-42 in 77, 2.2 GAR on 15.42
Bailey: 13-36-49 in 78, 1.0 GAR and 16.22 TOI
Parise: 18-13-31 in 70, 5.1 GAR and 12.55 TOI
Cizikas: 14-18-32 in 82, 0.5 GAR and 15.21 TOI
Clutterbuck: 4-11-15 in 66, -2.6 GAR and 13.31 TOI
Martin: 2-2-4 in 28, -1.1 GAR and 11.42 TOI
Johnston: 0-4-4 in 18, 0 GAR and 11.22 TOI
Raty: 1-8-9 in 13, 1.9 GAR and 14.45 TOI
Dufour: 0-1-1 in 6, -0.5 GAR and 12.21 TOI
Holmstrom: 0-1-1 in 2, 0.1 GAR and 9.42 TOI
Panik: 1-0-1 in 2, -0.5 GAR and 11.05 TOI
Notes:
- Martin and Johnston fill in on 4th line for injuries and Parise moves up into top 9
- Raty comes up at end of season to get NHL experience; Dufour and Holmstrom come up for the injuries that last 1-2 games
- Panik comes up for bottom 6 injuries
Pelech: 6-20-26 in 82, 14.6 GAR and 24.46 TOI
Puloch: 7-51-58 in 82, 13.8 GAR and 23.31 TOI
Romanov: 4-18-22 in 82, 4.8 GAR and 19.42 TOI
Dobson: 17-50-67 in 82, 11.9 GAR and 22.13 TOI
Salo: 6-13-19 in 65, 1.1 GAR and 17.08 TOI
Mayfield: 5-12-17 in 52, 3.8 GAR and 15.26 TOI
Aho: 1-3-4 in 17, -3.4 GAR and 15.22 TOI
Hutton: 0-2-2 in 18, -1.1 GAR and 14.22 TOI
Wilde: 1-3-4 in 11, 0.6 GAR and 13.58 TOI
LaDue: 0-0-0 in 1, 0.0 GAR and 12.24 TOI
Notes:
- Dobson takes the big next step
- Mayfield gets traded at TDL to top contender for first + small assets
First off, and this is why I put Mayfield in my thread about overvalued players, but nobody is giving NYI that price for Mayfield. He's a very good 3rd pairing dman/so-so 2nd pairing dman. Even with retention he's not even close to worth that. Your offer is beyond absurd. He's worth a 3rd.
First off, and this is why I put Mayfield in my thread about overvalued players, but nobody is giving NYI that price for Mayfield. He's a very good 3rd pairing dman/so-so 2nd pairing dman. Even with retention he's not even close to worth that. Your offer is beyond absurd. He's worth a 3rd.
Second, have you seen Vegas' cap issues?
You’ve never seen Mayfield play have you? Look at his metrics with Toews and Pelech… dude can play top four minutes. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous.
I've seen some bad overvaluing of Mayfield on here, but his one takes the cake.
I would have paid the first round pick last year, given he had an extra year on his contract at a good number. Certainly not giving that 1st round pick plus Minten and a 3rd for maximum 30 games now.
Must be that Holl is going the other way, his "negative" value is driving up the cost.
First off, and this is why I put Mayfield in my thread about overvalued players, but nobody is giving NYI that price for Mayfield. He's a very good 3rd pairing dman/so-so 2nd pairing dman. Even with retention he's not even close to worth that. Your offer is beyond absurd. He's worth a 3rd.
Second, have you seen Vegas' cap issues?
Mayfield is making 1.45 mil. he would be below the league minimum at half retained.
Chiarot sucks and got all of that. Mayfield is better than Chiarot. He plays hard minutes, has playoff experience and plays special teams.
I've seen some bad overvaluing of Mayfield on here, but his one takes the cake.
Mayfield is a top four defenseman who had great metrics with Toews and Pelech. He isn’t getting a first and a third, but he’s def worth assets equivalent to what Chiarot or Manson got.
Then again. Everyone on this site says isles fans over value mayfield, but then try and trade their trash for him and then get mad when we call them out on it. What a joke!
You’ve never seen Mayfield play have you? Look at his metrics with Toews and Pelech… dude can play top four minutes. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous.
My man, I live in area, so I see plenty of NYR, NYI and NJD games locally. Mayfield is an average 2nd pairing dman AT BEST. If you think he's worth a 1st and 3rd then you're outta yo mind lol
Mayfield is making 1.45 mil. he would be below the league minimum at half retained.
Chiarot sucks and got all of that. Mayfield is better than Chiarot. He plays hard minutes, has playoff experience and plays special teams.
That logic would make sense if other players better than Chiarot didn't less in trade last year. Just because "A" happens and "B" is similar to "A" doesn't always mean you'll get the same.
I've seen some bad overvaluing of Mayfield on here, but his one takes the cake.
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I would have paid the first round pick last year, given he had an extra year on his contract at a good number. Certainly not giving that 1st round pick plus Minten and a 3rd for maximum 30 games now.
Must be that Holl is going the other way, his "negative" value is driving up the cost.
Mayfield>Chiarot on a better deal. No reason to why contenders wouldnt toss a first for him at TDL. He will be making under the league minimum. Ive already addressed it before here. This is also what I deem to be necessary to move him, which will likely be close to what he gets considering how insane the market was last TDL
Mayfield is making 1.45 mil. he would be below the league minimum at half retained.
Chiarot sucks and got all of that. Mayfield is better than Chiarot. He plays hard minutes, has playoff experience and plays special teams.
He’s on the same level as Manson. Maybe he’s worse offensively, but he makes up for it in his own end. It’s weird how other fanbases like to say the isles overvalue Mayfield and Varly, but then get mad when we won’t take a bag of blue pucks for them. It’s almost like a lot of people out there think that pretending Mayfield isn’t worth much on capfriendly will impact the real world. It’s embarrassing.
That logic would make sense if other players better than Chiarot got less in trade last year. Just because "A" happens and "B" is similar to "A" doesn't always mean you'll get the same.
Hampus Lindholm was one of the most overrated defenseman in the NHL and got a 2022 first-round pick, 2023 and 2024 second-round picks, Urho Vaakanainen and John Moore. What has more value:
Lindholm or Mayfield, two 2nds and Urho Vaakanainen? Thats another trade comp
My man, I live in area, so I see plenty of NYR, NYI and NJD games locally. Mayfield is an average 2nd pairing dman AT BEST. If you think he's worth a 1st and 3rd then you're outta yo mind lol
Not sure how that’s possible when your evaluation of him is this skewed. Mayfield and Pelech graded out well as a FIRST PAIR last year. I get that some guys don’t value big physical defenseman, but considering he owned teams like Pittsburgh in the playoffs I’m not surprised that you don’t like him. It almost seems like ur a bit bitter 😜 Jk lol
Hampus Lindholm was one of the most overrated defenseman in the NHL and got a 2022 first-round pick, 2023 and 2024 second-round picks, Urho Vaakanainen and John Moore. What has more value:
Lindholm or Mayfield, two 2nds and Urho Vaakanainen? Thats another trade comp
John Marino, who's wayyyyyyyyy better than Mayfield and Chiarot got Ty Smith and a 3rd.
Mayfield>Chiarot on a better deal. No reason to why contenders wouldnt toss a first for him at TDL. He will be making under the league minimum. Ive already addressed it before here. This is also what I deem to be necessary to move him, which will likely be close to what he gets considering how insane the market was last TDL
You might get the first if you're going to retain half. We'd be nickel and diming at that point.
But you're not asking for a first. You're asking for a first, a freshly drafted early 2nd rounder and a 3rd for maximum 30 games of Mayfield. And no, sending the Holl the other way isn't driving up the cost that much.
If that's what you're expecting, you might be disappointed with the result.
Not sure how that’s possible when your evaluation of him is this skewed. Mayfield and Pelech graded out well as a FIRST PAIR last year. I get that some guys don’t value big physical defenseman, but considering he owned teams like Pittsburgh in the playoffs I’m not surprised that you don’t like him. It almost seems like ur a bit bitter 😜 Jk lol
Anyone who knows me on these boards knows I'm able to pull my bias from my team. I'm the first to call my team on on their deficiencies.
Mayfield is a top three overvalued player on capfriendly. Plain and simple. Rutta played top pairing minutes with Hedman. Does that mean I think he's a top four dman? NOPE!
You might get the first if you're going to retain half. We'd be nickel and diming at that point.
But you're not asking for a first. You're asking for a first, a freshly drafted early 2nd rounder and a 3rd for maximum 30 games of Mayfield. And no, sending the Holl the other way isn't driving up the cost that much.
If that's what you're expecting, you might be disappointed with the result.
They're not getting a first for him. No way, no how.
Hampus Lindholm was one of the most overrated defenseman in the NHL and got a 2022 first-round pick, 2023 and 2024 second-round picks, Urho Vaakanainen and John Moore. What has more value:
Lindholm or Mayfield, two 2nds and Urho Vaakanainen? Thats another trade comp
Worst kept secret ion this site is that most fans can’t evaluate defenseman. And it gets even worse when fans throw around the “analytics” on a player when they don’t understand how the analytics are calculated or work.
I can’t tell you how many fans have told me something that’s completely wrong, then told me I was the problem lol. Fans try to evaluate guys in a vacuum, and it doesn’t work lol.
Anyone who knows me on these boards knows I'm able to pull my bias from my team. I'm the first to call my team on on their deficiencies.
Mayfield is a top three overvalued player on capfriendly. Plain and simple. Rutta played top pairing minutes with Hedman. Does that mean I think he's a top four dman? NOPE!
You can’t compare Rutta and Mayfield lmao. Both the eye test and the analytics can tell you that pretty easily.
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