Demelo is actually really good btw. Worth a lot more than that

his stats are extremly similar to holl

Oof Jets fans are not gonna like this.

Engvall wont be moved

wished he was, we can clearly handle the loss

The Jets need DeMelo far more than they need Kerfoot and Holl doesn't add anything to the deal.

holl replaces demelo and they add a reliable 50 pts guy

Holl is barely a replacement level defenseman, while DeMelo can play in the top 4. So, Holl in not anywhere near being a replacement for DeMelo.

demelo has 18:30 avg ice time holl has 20 mins, the only difference between the 2 is 7 giveaways.

A Chevy at rest will remain at rest. A Chevy in motion ... happens once every few years.

Other than Holl also being a year older. If they're basically the same, according to you, Toronto can keep Holl and the Jets will keep DeMelo. Holl doesn't give Winnipeg anything they need. Just plug Holl in where you wanted to use DeMelo.

Just make it a 4th for Kerfoot and we've got a deal.

4th for a 50 pts player isnt a good deal for the leafs no thx

its not according to me, its according to the stats lol,

Cool. Stats for a heavily sheltered, replacement level defenseman against the easiest competition don't mean a lot. But of you believe his stats are the be all, and all, why do you want to trade him for a defenseman that isn't much better?

I'd say keep Holl, play him where you wanted to play DeMelo and enjoy the cap savings.

sheltered? he plays more than demelo, and alot of pk

So then give us an answer, why the hell do you want Demelo so bad and are willing to give up a "reliable 50 point player" for him as well in the deal if he is basically the same as Holl?

on another post people said he was wayyy better than holl and a capable shutdown, if hes that great of a shutdown maybe hed fit in with rielly which is my question

when i look up winnipeg lines hes on their 3rd pair playing with stanley

Hmm not really an answer to my question. Case closed

why quote me like kerfoot isnt a relibale top 6 player lol?

i gave you one, its just not what you hoped to hear

Last year it was

Morrissey - Demelo
Samberg - Pionk
Dillon - Schmidt
Stanley (healthy scratch)

There was a point in the season where it was Dillon-Pionk and Heinola-Schmidt, but the pairings the settled on were the ones above.

thank u for the info

So then why do you want DeMelo, if Holl is better?

i never said holl is better, just stating that their stats are very similar, if demelo is in fact better i would do the trade i proposed

Right. You would do it, Winnipeg wouldn't touch it, because as you've just said DeMelo is better.