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Roy and ZAR

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 sept. 2022
Publié: 11 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
LAK get an upgrade at Left D, First and Replacement RHD. Leafs get an Upgrade at RHD, a good RHD Prospect and a 3rd.

Kerfoot to any team for cap reasons.

Subban signed for depth.
ZAR signed for the 4th line.
Rodrigues signs the Kase deal of 1.5 x 1. He can play all over our top 9.

This is a 21 player roster which is far from optimal. It addresses most of the needs the team has.

This is a new LA trade for me. I know LA are super high on Roy but they still have Doughty, Durzi, Holl, Walker, Brandt (in the future) on the right side. Getting Sandin for the left would be very nice for them.

Thoughts?
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RFAANSCAP HIT
11 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
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1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
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2.
TOR
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. Roy, Matt
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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2182 500 000 $82 277 283 $212 500 $0 $222 717 $
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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DD
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
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800 000 $800 000 $
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11 sept. 2022 à 16 h 15
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Absolutely no reason for LA to do that trade.
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11 sept. 2022 à 16 h 16
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Absolutely no reason for LA to do that trade.


I explained my thought process in the description. I definitely see a reason why they would contemplate this. What is your reasoning for saying they wouldn't be interested?
11 sept. 2022 à 16 h 30
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Absolutely no way we would trade Matt Roy and a third for Rasmus Sandin and a first, and no way we would trade A prospect Helge Grans for second/third-pairing rental defender Justin Holl.

Any "upgrade" Sandin (who had 16 points in 51 games) may represent over Edler (who had 19 points in 41 games and is a better defender) is dwarfed by the difference between Roy and Holl. And Grans is hugely more valuable than Holl, too.

I know that you Toronto guys consider Sandin a future Norris Trophy candidate, but until he actually shows that potential to disinterested third parties, we'll pass on him.
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11 sept. 2022 à 16 h 35
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Kings decline. No need for them to do that trade
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11 sept. 2022 à 16 h 41
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I’ll give you Roy for Sandin 1st + 2nd.
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11 sept. 2022 à 16 h 55
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Absolutely no way we would trade Matt Roy and a third for Rasmus Sandin and a first, and no way we would trade A prospect Helge Grans for second/third-pairing rental defender Justin Holl.

Any "upgrade" Sandin (who had 16 points in 51 games) may represent over Edler (who had 19 points in 41 games and is a better defender) is dwarfed by the difference between Roy and Holl. And Grans is hugely more valuable than Holl, too.

I know that you Toronto guys consider Sandin a future Norris Trophy candidate, but until he actually shows that potential to disinterested third parties, we'll pass on him.


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11 sept. 2022 à 17 h 43
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Quoting: Artman91
I’ll give you Roy for Sandin 1st + 2nd.


roy is not that good beuh why the hell do u think he’s worth even close to that
11 sept. 2022 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: Gareg_painter
roy is not that good beuh why the hell do u think he’s worth even close to that


Because you’re a stats reader. Take your time this season and watch a few games and you’ll understand why I think he’s worth that much.
11 sept. 2022 à 17 h 51
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Because you’re a stats reader. Take your time this season and watch a few games and you’ll understand why I think he’s worth that much.


i have watched him many times but to be worth a first a second and a proper who’s gonna be good even if he hasn’t broken out yet he’ll no
11 sept. 2022 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: Gareg_painter
i have watched him many times but to be worth a first a second and a proper who’s gonna be good even if he hasn’t broken out yet he’ll no


Brother then we simply don’t trade Roy. Deal?
11 sept. 2022 à 17 h 57
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Brother then we simply don’t trade Roy. Deal?


i understand but in no ways is he worth that much that’s all im saying
11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 0
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Quoting: Gareg_painter
i understand but in no ways is he worth that much that’s all im saying


I’m not saying he’s worth that much. But it will cost that much for it to make sense for LA to move him. Did I word that correctly?
11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 5
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"I know LA are super high on Roy but they still have Doughty, Durzi, Holl, Walker, Brandt (in the future) on the right side."

That's like saying the Leafs don't need Matthews because they already have Tavares, Marner, and Nylander at forward, so they should give him away for futures that don't help the team now. Sandin might have potential, but right now he's a healthy scratch for the Leafs.

Matt Roy was the Kings #1 defenseman for most of last season and the playoffs, and he carried the Kings defense to game 7 against the Western Conference Finalist Oilers. He might eventually be available, but right now he is irreplaceable. The Kings won't be trading him.
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11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 7
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"I know LA are super high on Roy but they still have Doughty, Durzi, Holl, Walker, Brandt (in the future) on the right side."

That's like saying the Leafs don't need Matthews because they already have Tavares, Marner, and Nylander at forward, so they should give him away for futures that don't help the team now. Sandin might have potential, but right now he's a healthy scratch for the Leafs.

Matt Roy was the Kings #1 defenseman for most of last season and the playoffs, and he carried the Kings defense to game 7 against the Western Conference Finalist Oilers. He might eventually be available, but right now he is irreplaceable. The Kings won't be trading him.


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11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 10
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"I know LA are super high on Roy but they still have Doughty, Durzi, Holl, Walker, Brandt (in the future) on the right side."

That's like saying the Leafs don't need Matthews because they already have Tavares, Marner, and Nylander at forward, so they should give him away for futures that don't help the team now. Sandin might have potential, but right now he's a healthy scratch for the Leafs.

Matt Roy was the Kings #1 defenseman for most of last season and the playoffs, and he carried the Kings defense to game 7 against the Western Conference Finalist Oilers. He might eventually be available, but right now he is irreplaceable. The Kings won't be trading him.


Matt Roy - Very good top 4 RHD on a good contract
Matthews - Generational Elite Goal Scoring Centre

No... that is not "That's like saying the Leafs don't need Matthews because.."

I understand why LA doesn't do this trade though. But Sandin would make LA's left D better right now but their right D would take a hit.
11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 12
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I’m not saying he’s worth that much. But it will cost that much for it to make sense for LA to move him. Did I word that correctly?


that makes sense
11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 14
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Matt Roy - Very good top 4 RHD on a good contract
Matthews - Generational Elite Goal Scoring Centre

No... that is not "That's like saying the Leafs don't need Matthews because.."

I understand why LA doesn't do this trade though. But Sandin would make LA's left D better right now but their right D would take a hit.


I'm not saying it's a direct comparable, but it's the same logic. You don't need a very good player because you already have other very good players. Doesn't make any sense.

I don't think Sandin is better than any of Anderson, Walker, or Edler. Coin flip on whether he's better then Bjornfot (who will likely not be in the starting six for LA this season).
11 sept. 2022 à 18 h 16
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