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A pair of Nics to Calgary

Créé par: MoxNix
Publié: 10 sept. à 23 h 7
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
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Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaARI)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Kylington, OliverFlames de CalgaryLNH-2 486 559 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial20 363 291 $22437331513
Variation-2 486 559 $1110-10
Final17 876 732 $ (↓)23 (↑)44 (↑)74 (↑)314 (↓)13000

Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Kylington, OliverFlames de CalgaryLNH-2 486 559 $011---0000--
Välimäki, JuusoFlames de CalgaryLNH-1 541 667 $011---0000--
Ruzicka, AdamFlames de CalgaryLNH-0 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Roy, NicolasGolden Knights de VegasLNH-2 983 871 $011---0000--
Hague, NicolasGolden Knights de VegasIR-0 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 136 667 $214267358
Variation1 044 355 $-2-1-1000
Final3 181 022 $ (↑)19 (↓)41 (↓)66 (↓)358000

Logo de Golden Knights de VegasGolden Knights de Vegas

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Roy, NicolasGolden Knights de VegasLNH-2 983 871 $011---0000--
Hague, NicolasGolden Knights de VegasIR-0 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Välimäki, JuusoFlames de CalgaryLNH-1 541 667 $011---0000--
Ruzicka, AdamFlames de CalgaryLNH-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaARI)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial-10 236 310 $2149643610
Variation1 442 204 $100010
Final-8 794 106 $ (↑)22 (↑)496437 (↑)10000
11 sept. à 0 h 17
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Bruce, there it goes
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Ari doesn’t need Kylington at all (they are rebuilding) and they are certainly not giving up any high picks (1st/2nds). Vegas are saving cap space by giving away both Hague and Roy but they are massively overpaying the Flames. I don’t think either Ruzicka or Valimaki would get much playing time in Vegas.
11 sept. à 16 h 9
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good riddance johnny
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Modifié 11 sept. à 16 h 16
Arizona does it because:

1. Kylington is worth a late 1st but they'd only be giving up an early 2nd.
2. They're going to trade Chychrun as soon they get an offer they like, Kylington is a mobile puck moving defenseman with great speed to replace Chychrun.
3. They can always flip Kylington if they decide he doesn't fit their plans.

It's not a great deal for Vegas but it's not the massive overpay you say it is either. You don't get full value for assets when everyone knows you're in cap hell and need to move some salary out. Ruzicka and Howden would compete for the 3rd line center position. Valimaki would be in the same spot on the depth chart in Vegas as Hague is. The difference is Valimaki is already signed for this year at 1.55 mil while Hauge is an unsigned RFA looking for around 3 mil per year on a new contract.

That early 2nd from Arizona is going to Vegas too, NOT to Calgary.
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12 sept. à 16 h 5
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Quoting: MoxNix
Arizona does it because:

1. Kylington is worth a late 1st but they'd only be giving up an early 2nd.
2. They're going to trade Chychrun as soon they get an offer they like, Kylington is a mobile puck moving defenseman with great speed to replace Chychrun.
3. They can always flip Kylington if they decide he doesn't fit their plans.

It's not a great deal for Vegas but it's not the massive overpay you say it is either. You don't get full value for assets when everyone knows you're in cap hell and need to move some salary out. Ruzicka and Howden would compete for the 3rd line center position. Valimaki would be in the same spot on the depth chart in Vegas as Hague is. The difference is Valimaki is already signed for this year at 1.55 mil while Hauge is an unsigned RFA looking for around 3 mil per year on a new contract.

That early 2nd from Arizona is going to Vegas too, NOT to Calgary.

Just another guy hating on and undervaluing the Flames Prospects and not realizing a Young Established D-Man they can build around is far more valuable than Draft Picks which are a complete lottery and years away from presenting any value

I doubt Hague gets that kind of money, but we wouldn't be able to afford both Roy & Hague than either, so what's your thoughts or play to fit them in under the Cap?

Brett Howden + Nic Hague might make more sense
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good riddance johnny
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Just another guy hating on and undervaluing the Flames Prospects and not realizing a Young Established D-Man they can build around is far more valuable than Draft Picks which are a complete lottery and years away from presenting any value

I doubt Hague gets that kind of money, but we wouldn't be able to afford both Roy & Hague than either, so what's your thoughts or play to fit them in under the Cap?

Brett Howden + Nic Hague might make more sense


Good point on not being able to afford both Roy and Hague. I forgot to fill out the rest of the roster. frown

Hague is projected to get somewhere in the 2-3 mil range. I was hoping Calgary could sign him in the middle of that range around 2.5 mil per. He's not as skilled or as fast as Kylington but Calgary has plenty of skilled defenseman and he is a whole lot bigger and meaner which Calgary could use more of.

I wanted Roy over Howden mostly because of right shot vs left shot.
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