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Créé par: Rotheisler
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2022
Publié: 10 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not sure if this would work for both sides, mainly just seeing how the money would work and looking for a simple solution to a playmaking winger on Kadris forehand side (RW). VT may be ideal and doesn't eat future cap space but may be a high price for only 1 year of control. Sexy line up though.
EDIT* I forgot about Ruzicka, so I signed him and put JP to the Wranglers. Doesn't require waivers and they are in the same city so better he get playing time, and I thought AR was good in a B6 role.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1787 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
STL
  1. Kylington, Oliver
  2. Zary, Connor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $69 325 000 $0 $200 000 $13 175 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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0 $0 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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10 sept. 2022 à 16 h 54
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Overpayment from the Flames

Actually it’s probably fair
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10 sept. 2022 à 17 h 8
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Overpayment from the Flames


Underpayment From The Flames
10 sept. 2022 à 17 h 29
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Overpayment from the Flames


Tarasenko's rental value isn't that much less than Pastrnak's so I see this as a fairly surprising take from a Bruins fan.

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Underpayment From The Flames


Personally I think the trade is pretty fair if it fits teams needs. But I see it as more of a deadline thing and maybe without retention
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10 sept. 2022 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Tarasenko's rental value isn't that much less than Pastrnak's so I see this as a fairly surprising take from a Bruins fan.



Personally I think the trade is pretty fair if it fits teams needs. But I see it as more of a deadline thing and maybe without retention


Yea Our gm doesn’t retain at all so that won’t happen
I also would rather have Pelletier than Zary
And Kylington would be very unneeded here too
10 sept. 2022 à 19 h 12
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Counter offer: Make it Coronato, Lucic and your 23 1st for Tarasenko, and you have a deal today.
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10 sept. 2022 à 21 h 55
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Yea Our gm doesn’t retain at all so that won’t happen
I also would rather have Pelletier than Zary
And Kylington would be very unneeded here too


You would prefer the more NHL ready prospect? Thats not surprising.

Zary will very likely have a significantly better year actually playing top 6 and on special teams in the AHL this season. He is also a center prospect unlike Pelletier.

Is the Leddy deal the only reason you don't like the addition of Kylington?

Quoting: mokumboi
Counter offer: Make it Coronato, Lucic and your 23 1st for Tarasenko, and you have a deal today.


Calgary would never do that for a rental
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10 sept. 2022 à 22 h 14
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You would prefer the more NHL ready prospect? Thats not surprising.

Zary will very likely have a significantly better year actually playing top 6 and on special teams in the AHL this season. He is also a center prospect unlike Pelletier.

Is the Leddy deal the only reason you don't like the addition of Kylington?



Calgary would never do that for a rental


A rental and a cap dump. cool But yeah, I know. I'm just negotiating here.
10 sept. 2022 à 22 h 42
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A rental and a cap dump. cool But yeah, I know. I'm just negotiating here.


I dont see STL selling but I also dont see the above value as far off at all
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11 sept. 2022 à 0 h 20
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You would prefer the more NHL ready prospect? Thats not surprising.

Zary will very likely have a significantly better year actually playing top 6 and on special teams in the AHL this season. He is also a center prospect unlike Pelletier.

Is the Leddy deal the only reason you don't like the addition of Kylington?



Calgary would never do that for a rental


Yea I mean he have leddy Krug Scandella mikkola and Scotty P so our left side is good
And on RHD we are super good

Also about the Coranto part is be fine with him too one of those 3
11 sept. 2022 à 0 h 32
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I dont see STL selling but I also dont see the above value as far off at all


The Blues aren't rebuilding and have 6 NHL level LDs. You can talk about value, but if it isn't the right value, it ain't gonna fly. Like you said, offloading Tarasenko has to be worth it. The package above ain't the right value.
11 sept. 2022 à 1 h 10
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I dont think you are understanding. IF they are trying to move out Krug and or Scandella (and Tarasenko) which is widely reported despite a "non-rebuilding team", then they are going to need more cost effective D men to replace them, (this is all IF) hence I think actually Kylington would be a non starter from there end to leave in. Zary is only a few years off, and if you really don't want to rebuild, then that's fine, we will just keep our 1st, and gladly take yours too since you wont need it. You say your not looking to rebuild on one reply, and the other you say you don't want the only established NHL player in there. Nobody is giving a core piece for a UFA forward at 7.5M in todays cap space. I understand you would like more, but just not gonna get it.
11 sept. 2022 à 2 h 18
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The Blues aren't rebuilding and have 6 NHL level LDs. You can talk about value, but if it isn't the right value, it ain't gonna fly. Like you said, offloading Tarasenko has to be worth it. The package above ain't the right value.


Just curious, who's your 6th? Rosen? I wouldn't call him much of an NHL defenseman.
11 sept. 2022 à 11 h 1
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Just curious, who's your 6th? Rosen? I wouldn't call him much of an NHL defenseman.


Yes, Rosen. And he's played solidly for the Blues. But if you wish to consider it 5 instead of 6, the point remains. I like Kylington, but they aren't going to spend value in a Tarasenko trade on another LD.
11 sept. 2022 à 11 h 3
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Yes, Rosen. And he's played solidly for the Blues. But if you wish to consider it 5 instead of 6, the point remains. I like Kylington, but they aren't going to spend value in a Tarasenko trade on another LD.


I was simply asking about who the 6th was in your opinion, not about the trade
11 sept. 2022 à 12 h 22
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I was simply asking about who the 6th was in your opinion, not about the trade


Gotcha. Yep, Rosen is the sixth.
 
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