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Monstrosity

Créé par: CoachCoach
Publié: 10 sept. 2022 à 14 h 37
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chychrun, JakobCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 575 269 $011---0000--
Stecher, TroyCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-1 243 280 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
van Riemsdyk, JamesFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-6 962 366 $011---0000--
Muzzin, JakeMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-5 594 758 $011---0000--
Sandin, RasmusMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-0 $011---0000--
Robertson, NicholasExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphiePHI)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial20 363 291 $22437331513
Variation-6 738 575 $1122-10
Final13 624 716 $ (↓)23 (↑)44 (↑)75 (↑)5 (↑)14 (↓)13000

Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphieFlyers de Philadelphie

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
van Riemsdyk, JamesFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-6 962 366 $011---0000--
Konecny, TravisFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-5 470 430 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphiePHI)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nylander, WilliamMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-6 924 934 $011---0000--
Kerfoot, AlexanderMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH50%1 740 591 $011---0000--
Der-Arguchintsev, SemyonExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial-2 373 107 $2349684512
Variation3 767 271 $011020
Final1 394 164 $ (↑)2350 (↑)69 (↑)47 (↑)12000

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Muzzin, JakeMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-5 594 758 $011---0000--
Nylander, WilliamMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-6 924 934 $011---0000--
Kerfoot, AlexanderMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH50%1 740 591 $011---0000--
Der-Arguchintsev, SemyonExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Sandin, RasmusMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-0 $011---0000--
Robertson, NicholasExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Konecny, TravisFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-5 470 430 $011---0000--
Chychrun, JakobCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 575 269 $011---0000--
Stecher, TroyCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-1 243 280 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial-1 493 116 $2248683411
Variation2 971 304 $-1-2-3-2-10
Final1 478 188 $ (↑)21 (↓)46 (↓)65 (↓)1 (↓)3 (↓)11000
10 sept. 2022 à 14 h 39
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In response to a ACGM I saw. Would never happen in a million years, but wanted to go down the rabbit hole.
10 sept. 2022 à 16 h 37
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Arizona says the two 1sts cover the cap dumps (Muzzin and JVR) but the rest is nowhere near what it'll take to get Chychrun. Philly declines too.
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11 sept. 2022 à 0 h 23
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Bruce, there it goes
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No chance Philly gives up their 1st at all. Why is Toronto even retaining 50% on Kerfoot? They literally just flip JVR to the Yotes. I don’t see Toronto giving up picks either, if this was to happen they’d be without their own 2nd rounder from 2022-2025. Why isn’t Toronto giving Sandin to Philly instead? Makes a lot more sense. The Philly 1st rounder covers the cap dumps in JVR and Muzzin, but why even bother acquire Philly’s 1st rounder? This basically just means that Toronto is giving up Nylander to clear up 5M in cap (once all the trades and retention is accounted for)
12 sept. 2022 à 8 h 7
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Toronto gives up top line winger, 2 1sts, 2 quality young pieces, another prospect, a 40-50 point winger making 750k in real money, and a cap dump for the cost of a top line d man, a 2nd line winger, and a guy who just signed in FA. Assuming Nylander and a 1st was the cost for Chychrun (shouldn’t be that high but let’s go for it) and a 1st was the cost to dump Muzzin (again, shouldn’t be that high), than the Leafs are basically paying Kerfoot (50% retained btw), SDA, Sandin, Robertson, and a 2nd for…. Konecny?
Yeah, I think the Leafs pass
13 sept. 2022 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Lambchopz
Toronto gives up top line winger, 2 1sts, 2 quality young pieces, another prospect, a 40-50 point winger making 750k in real money, and a cap dump for the cost of a top line d man, a 2nd line winger, and a guy who just signed in FA. Assuming Nylander and a 1st was the cost for Chychrun (shouldn’t be that high but let’s go for it) and a 1st was the cost to dump Muzzin (again, shouldn’t be that high), than the Leafs are basically paying Kerfoot (50% retained btw), SDA, Sandin, Robertson, and a 2nd for…. Konecny?
Yeah, I think the Leafs pass


Few things:
first off this idea of this was from a TML fan. He wanted to see what it would take to get TK. I said it wouldn’t because it doesn’t make sense for either team. Started playing around and this was constructed. I did comment also saying this was a response to go down the crazy rabbit hole. In no way does this make sense.

Secondly, if you are going to use a Toronto only basis, at least be correct in your descriptions.
- Nylander 6.9M and needs a raise in two years. Is he re-signing over Matthews and Bunting?
- picks most likely between 25-32. Don’t act like they are top 10-15. Toronto isn’t deep in their prospect pool because they keep trying to win a cup and leverage everything for the “this is our year”
- both Sandin/Robertson have upside, but are unproven. Sandin not being signed hurts his value, Robertson is small and has injury problems. Could this be the worst thing from this trade in 5 years? Possibly.
- he isn’t even in your top 10 prospects. Stop acting like he moves the needle too far one way or the other. If I said Knies or Niemela I would get it.
- 40 point LW (look at faceoff numbers before saying he is a center) that won’t replicate 50 points on another team. Also is the overwhelming favorite as “MOST EXPENDABLE” player in Toronto. Makes 3.5 against cap, that matters more to teams than “actual money” for the teams that would have use for him.
- 5.6 Million for not just one, but two seasons. Mix in injury questions, history.

- here is the biggest point…. cap space. Toronto frees up so much space and would be primed to also add more. This doesn’t even factor that you can move your 6’4 20+ Min/gm monster in Holl and have 3.5M left over.

You also bring in two players who are established. JC is in his prime at 4.6 for three more seasons. TK is a slight downgrade from Nylander, but being 25 and never having elite cast mates…5.5 million for 3 seasons sounds great. Stecher as a depth piece allows you to move Holl or rotate between the two.
 
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