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It makes sense but idk if anyone would do it

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Date de création initiale: 9 sept. 2022
Publié: 9 sept. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
[Terry Signs a 6.9 by 4-7 yr extension],He’ll make nearly the same as Willy & probably 2 mil less then his next contract, Dallas needs to move out Salary for Robertson & Faksa isn’t awful, Rodrigues & Milano are two underrated signings that can help this team in the little areas, As Milano has some of the best microstats i’ve ever seen & Rodrigues can slot into the Top 6 incase of Injury whilst also producing at a respectable level
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Milano, Sonny32 250 000 $
Rodrigues, Evan22 000 000 $
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  1. LaCombe, Jackson [Liste de réserve]
  2. Terry, Troy
ANA
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Rindell, Axel
  3. 2025 1e round pick (TOR)
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TOR
  1. 2023 5e round pick (NYR)
WPG
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
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TOR
  1. 2023 2e round pick (LAK)
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  1. Sandin, Rasmus [Droits de RFA]
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TOR
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Hakanpää, Jani
DAL
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 4e round pick (TOR)
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Bunting, Michael
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Marner, Mitchell
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Tavares, John
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Terry, Troy
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Faksa, Radek
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Engvall, Pierre
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Murray, Matt
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Muzzin, Jake
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Liljegren, Timothy
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Samsonov, Ilya
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Giordano, Mark
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Hakanpää, Jani
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9 sept. à 10 h 12
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I wouldn't let Sandin go unless it's for a 1st or an offersheet that can't be matched.
9 sept. à 10 h 14
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I think these trades make sense for TOR. Not so much for the other teams, more specifically ANA and DAL. The Kerfoot and Sandin trades are fine in terms value, but I can't speak to if they make sense for the other teams. I feel like Kerfoot makes sense for a playoff bound team with some space.

Terry is a stud still on his ELC and potentially be better than Nylander if he isn't already better than him.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
I wouldn't let Sandin go unless it's for a 1st or an offersheet that can't be matched.


Yeah but if it’s an Offersheet it’s most likely under 4.2 so you’re getting a 2nd anyway
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9 sept. à 10 h 15
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think these trades make sense for TOR. Not so much for the other teams, more specifically ANA and DAL. The Kerfoot and Sandin trades are fine in terms value, but I can't speak to if they make sense for the other teams. I feel like Kerfoot makes sense for a playoff bound team with some space.

Terry is a stud still on his ELC and potentially be better than Nylander if he isn't already better than him.


That’s why there is a 1st attached to the Terry deal & the Dallas trade lets them get the space to sign Robertson, whilst a-lot of people have said that Kerfoot would be a great fit in WPG
9 sept. à 10 h 17
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That’s why there is a 1st attached to the Terry deal & the Dallas trade lets them get the space to sign Robertson, whilst a-lot of people have said that Kerfoot would be a great fit in WPG


I get the package to ANA, but that doesn't mean it makes sense for ANA. They're a team on the rise, so why would they move one of the best young stars? I like Nylander, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't make sense for ANA over Terry.

As far as DAL is concerned they'd be losing center depth which they need.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I get the package to ANA, but that doesn't mean it makes sense for ANA. They're a team on the rise, so why would they move one of the best young stars? I like Nylander, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't make sense for ANA over Terry.

As far as DAL is concerned they'd be losing center depth which they need.


I’ve seen a ANA fan propose this before, I think getting a 1st & 2 years of Willy makes them a fringe playoff team & It’s not like Willy isn’t as good as Terry. Any short comings are made up by that 1st (I was told Willy, a 2nd & Hirvonen would do it, I just wanted Lacombe too), Dallas fans have also posted similar trades for Faksa & i didn’t see people crucifying others in the comments
9 sept. à 10 h 22
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Quoting: T0R
Yeah but if it’s an Offersheet it’s most likely under 4.2 so you’re getting a 2nd anyway


Thats fine but I'd make sure the other team is overpaying him and not just getting him straight up for a 2nd rounder.
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Ducks are building around Terry, they arent trading him for a guy that can walk in 2 years and a 1st 3 years from now

Making this trade makes no sense for the Ducks, Terry is the perfect age for what the Ducks are building, he isnt being moved
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Thats fine but I'd make sure the other team is overpaying him and not just getting him straight up for a 2nd rounder.


I know if i do that especially as a Leafs fan, the comments will start pouring in
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Ducks are building around Terry, they arent trading him for a guy that can walk in 2 years and a 1st 3 years from now

Making this trade makes no sense for the Ducks, Terry is the perfect age for what the Ducks are building, he isnt being moved


What if it was a 2023 or 2024 1st
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What if it was a 2023 or 2024 1st


Still no.

Terry isnt being moved
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The Anaheim and Dallas trades don't make any sense for anyone but the Leafs
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9 sept. à 10 h 31
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I get the package to ANA, but that doesn't mean it makes sense for ANA. They're a team on the rise, so why would they move one of the best young stars? I like Nylander, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't make sense for ANA over Terry.

As far as DAL is concerned they'd be losing center depth which they need.


Whut?? Dallas has centers for days and Faksa is horrible. That’s literally the first Holl to Dallas trade I’ve seen since we’ve signed Miller that I’d be okay with
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Whut?? Dallas has centers for days and Faksa is horrible. That’s literally the first Holl to Dallas trade I’ve seen since we’ve signed Miller that I’d be okay with


Thank You, YOU NEED TO SHED CAP & no one is taking Seguin or Benn & Gurianov is a RFA so theres no incentive there to move him, Why is it hard to grasp that a Leaf fan can make trades that make sense sometimes (Not to you but the guy above you)
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Thank You, YOU NEED TO SHED CAP & no one is taking Seguin or Benn & Gurianov is a RFA so theres no incentive there to move him, Why is it hard to grasp that a Leaf fan can make trades that make sense sometimes (Not to you but the guy above you)


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Ducks are building around Terry, they arent trading him for a guy that can walk in 2 years and a 1st 3 years from now

Making this trade makes no sense for the Ducks, Terry is the perfect age for what the Ducks are building, he isnt being moved


Fair Points but i’d expect to build around Zegras not Terry but i get your logic, The Ducks in 3-4 years will be a much more interesting team if all goes well
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I’ve seen a ANA fan propose this before, I think getting a 1st & 2 years of Willy makes them a fringe playoff team & It’s not like Willy isn’t as good as Terry. Any short comings are made up by that 1st (I was told Willy, a 2nd & Hirvonen would do it, I just wanted Lacombe too), Dallas fans have also posted similar trades for Faksa & i didn’t see people crucifying others in the comments


who proposed it??
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I’ve seen a ANA fan propose this before, I think getting a 1st & 2 years of Willy makes them a fringe playoff team & It’s not like Willy isn’t as good as Terry. Any short comings are made up by that 1st (I was told Willy, a 2nd & Hirvonen would do it, I just wanted Lacombe too), Dallas fans have also posted similar trades for Faksa & i didn’t see people crucifying others in the comments


Not trying to be a dick, but just because ANA fans proposed this doesn't mean it makes sense. I've seen Pens fans propose absolutely crazy stuff on here.

Just putting aside this trade. If you're a team exiting a rebuild and you have a young stud forward on an ELC and have rights to him once his contract is up, does it make sense to keep the young bourgeoning star or an established player who's older and you only have for two years?

Teams in or exiting a rebuild are hoping to draft players like Terry for their future.
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Don’t worry. Some of us know not all of you are bad 🤣🤣


Try telling that to Canucks Fans who roasted me for making a Right Side on Defence that didn’t look like a travesty in Vancouver then the logic to why my team is bad is cause the Canucks look great rn & can make it farther than the Leafs in the Playoffs, Cause that’s what constitutes success, Anyway Sorry about that little rant, You have a good day Sir
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At least three seasons (and probably more) of Troy Terry is worth more to us than two years of William Nylander and a late first, whether it's an over-the-horizon one or not. And given our lack of quality depth at RW, trading one for another doesn't make much sense at all. It would be different if, for example, we were trading Max Comtois (not to suggest that he's equivalent in value to Terry).
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who proposed it??
GIGGYWITHGIBBY I think his name was, He proposed Willy for Terry & the Av’s 2nd then the comments said it was unfair & the 2nd should be going to Ana, then i though if i included a 1st & not the 2nd coming back that i could get Lacombe as a Sandin Backup plan in case Sandy requests a trade
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At least three seasons (and probably more) of Troy Terry is worth more to us than two years of William Nylander and a late first, whether it's an over-the-horizon one or not. And given our lack of quality depth at RW, trading one for another doesn't make much sense at all. It would be different if, for example, we were trading Max Comtois (not to suggest that he's equivalent in value to Terry).


Don’t Worry I know he isn’t close to Terry
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At least three seasons (and probably more) of Troy Terry is worth more to us than two years of William Nylander and a late first, whether it's an over-the-horizon one or not. And given our lack of quality depth at RW, trading one for another doesn't make much sense at all. It would be different if, for example, we were trading Max Comtois (not to suggest that he's equivalent in value to Terry).


This trade really benefits TOR far more than ANA.

I'm also not trying to hate on the leafs here. I think Nylander is a very good player, but this trade just doesn't make sense for ANA.
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Yes, I proposed it yesterday, initially it was an offhand joke to give us something not Kerfoot/Holl/Muzzin to talk about. The trade can makes sense for ANA under two conditions.

1: Nylander is interested in being the star RW on the Ducks and extends with us before FA.

2: You believe that Terry is a 50 point per year guy on average. His breakout year, while expected for some time, still saw him shooting at nearly 20%, regress that down to 14% and he scores 28 goals last season. Very good for a 2RW, somewhat lacking for a 1RW. As to why not put him 2RW, because that's where I think Strome goes when McTavish takes 2C.

Willy is only two years older than Terry, he isn't going to age off the team before we are ready to compete, he is only 26 this year, under the assumption that we can lock him up, he is still a great age for the team.

It all comes down to if you think Terry is going to be a Debrincat, or a Ryan Strome. I think he is a Ryan Strome, and since this is the land of LA LA make believe, I propose to sell high on him and use the cap leverage to pry out a known young star from a cap strapped team.
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