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two trades trading cap space for picks

Créé par: GMTD
Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 8 sept. 2022
Publié: 8 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
    future considerations
    2.
    BUF
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
    OTT
      future considerations
      Rachats de contrats
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2023
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      2024
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      2025
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2382 500 000 $62 416 667 $0 $3 537 500 $20 083 333 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AG, C
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      825 000 $825 000 $
      AG, C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
      C, AG
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      AD, AG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
      AG, C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      687 500 $687 500 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      DD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      925 000 $925 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      850 000 $850 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
      G
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 2
      Équipe de réserve
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DG
      UFA - 1

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      8 sept. 2022 à 1 h 45
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      Why would the oilers pay a team to take a guy paid what hes worth? hes no lucic
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      8 sept. 2022 à 2 h 22
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      Quoting: smokewiseganja
      Why would the oilers pay a team to take a guy paid what hes worth? hes no lucic


      Dude no one is taking on Foefele for nothing, he's easily going to cost at least a 2nd to move. GMs with cap space aren't helping Holland out of his caphell. GMs are around the league don't think that Foegele has much value.
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      8 sept. 2022 à 7 h 56
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      Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
      Dude no one is taking on Foefele for nothing, he's easily going to cost at least a 2nd to move. GMs with cap space aren't helping Holland out of his caphell. GMs are around the league don't think that Foegele has much value.


      this is my favorite argument on this site.
      you have direct lines of communication with the "GM's around the league" to have this intel?

      Foegele certainly has value, teams won't have to pay up to get him and Edmonton certainly won't have to pay to get rid of him if that is their path forward.
      conditional 4th.
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      8 sept. 2022 à 9 h 57
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      The Sabres haven't shown any inclination to just take cap to be swell guys. Frankly nobody has. I think I would take foegele if he came with a second, he doesn't fit what the Sabres are doing, but the Sabres plan appears to be to roll several talented kids at forward in the top 9, not much grit to be found. Zaitsev I would pass on. All zaitsev would do is give us 3 right shot d on the roster, but he's not good, and he has the extra bonus year to boot.
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      8 sept. 2022 à 10 h 36
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      Modifié 8 sept. 2022 à 10 h 49
      Quoting: sabres89
      The Sabres haven't shown any inclination to just take cap to be swell guys. Frankly nobody has. Montreal and Monahan. I think I would take foegele if he came with a second, he doesn't fit what the Sabres are doing, but the Sabres plan appears to be to roll several talented kids at forward in the top 9, not much grit to be found. Zaitsev I would pass on. All zaitsev would do is give us 3 right shot d on the roster, but he's not good, and he has the extra bonus year to boot.
      I agree on all counts.
      Both could be sent to Rochester if they cannot make the line up and the Sabres walk away with 3 second round picks.
      Foegele may not find a spot on a healthy line up but he is an insurance policy if Peterka needs more time in Rochester and is an upgrade over Sheahan.
      Zaitsev may be terrible but he is better than Bogosian.
      It is important to not underestimate how important 3 RHD are to the offense and defense.
      Think back to the empty net goal Tuch scored against Vegas.
      Eichel was on his back hand and could not get the puck past Alex.
      A left hand defenseman playing on the right side would face the same problem and is vulnerable to being pressured by a forward.
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      8 sept. 2022 à 10 h 37
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      Quoting: GMTD
      I agree on all counts.
      Both could be sent to Rochester if they cannot make the line up and the Sabres walk away with 3 second round picks.
      Foegele may not find a spot on a healthy line up but he is an insurance policy if Peterka needs more time in Rochester and is an upgrade over Sheahan.
      Zaitsev may be terrible but he is better than Bogosian.
      It is important to not underestimate how important 3 RHD are to the offense and defense.
      Think back to the empty net goal Tuch scored against Vegas.
      Eichel was on his back hand and could not get the puck past Alex.
      A left hand defenseman playing on the right side would face the same problem and is vulnerable to being pressured by a forward.
      8 sept. 2022 à 12 h 39
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      Quoting: GMTD
      I agree on all counts.
      Both could be sent to Rochester if they cannot make the line up and the Sabres walk away with 3 second round picks.
      Foegele may not find a spot on a healthy line up but he is an insurance policy if Peterka needs more time in Rochester and is an upgrade over Sheahan.
      Zaitsev may be terrible but he is better than Bogosian.
      It is important to not underestimate how important 3 RHD are to the offense and defense.
      Think back to the empty net goal Tuch scored against Vegas.
      Eichel was on his back hand and could not get the puck past Alex.
      A left hand defenseman playing on the right side would face the same problem and is vulnerable to being pressured by a forward.

      Pretty funny how Sabres fans think Foegele wouldn't make the top-9 on a team that hasn't / likely won't make the playoffs, when he was in the top-9 on his last two teams, both of which are Stanley Cup contenders.
      8 sept. 2022 à 12 h 53
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      Quoting: smokewiseganja
      Why would the oilers pay a team to take a guy paid what hes worth? hes no lucic


      Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
      Dude no one is taking on Foefele for nothing, he's easily going to cost at least a 2nd to move. GMs with cap space aren't helping Holland out of his caphell. GMs are around the league don't think that Foegele has much value.


      Quoting: Mike_Gartner
      this is my favorite argument on this site.
      you have direct lines of communication with the "GM's around the league" to have this intel?

      Foegele certainly has value, teams won't have to pay up to get him and Edmonton certainly won't have to pay to get rid of him if that is their path forward.
      conditional 4th.

      Yeah, it's his go-to line. It's actually pretty funny considering GM's around the league have shown over and over that they LOVE this player type, trading 1st round picks and signing them to big money and term.

      Foegele v Hagel

      Foegele v Goodrow

      Foegele v Coleman

      Quoting: sabres89
      The Sabres haven't shown any inclination to just take cap to be swell guys. Frankly nobody has. I think I would take foegele if he came with a second, he doesn't fit what the Sabres are doing, but the Sabres plan appears to be to roll several talented kids at forward in the top 9, not much grit to be found.
      8 sept. 2022 à 13 h 30
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      Quoting: GMTD
      I agree on all counts.
      Both could be sent to Rochester if they cannot make the line up and the Sabres walk away with 3 second round picks.
      Foegele may not find a spot on a healthy line up but he is an insurance policy if Peterka needs more time in Rochester and is an upgrade over Sheahan.
      Zaitsev may be terrible but he is better than Bogosian.
      It is important to not underestimate how important 3 RHD are to the offense and defense.
      Think back to the empty net goal Tuch scored against Vegas.
      Eichel was on his back hand and could not get the puck past Alex.
      A left hand defenseman playing on the right side would face the same problem and is vulnerable to being pressured by a forward.


      I like the idea of foegele better, I don't think it's gonna happen. Adams said he wasn't gonna bring in vets to block the kids, and he's stood by that, our big ufa forward was Vinnie hinostroza. So this year will be about seeing exactly what we have with all of these young players. I expect any philosophical adjustments, like deciding a guy like foegele needs to be added, that'll be next summer. Plus attendance should be better, pegula likely will let adams spend more money.
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      8 sept. 2022 à 19 h 38
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      The smart move for Ottawa would be to send Zaitsev to the AHL so he would help over there to make the playoffs and have another year of his contract pass.

      Then pay his bonus next summer and then dump the last 2.5 M$ for a relatively cheap asset

      Of course, ownership would have to veto this and agree to spend another 4.5 on Zaitsev instead of two 2nds like this
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