Not a complete deal Talk to me about the framework

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Créé par: mokumboi

Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis

Date de création initiale: 5 sept. 2022

Publié: 5 sept. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I'm trying to see what everyone thinks about whether this is a feasible framework for a 3-way trade with NJ (who get Tarasenko and give Severson to VAN). And if it is, what finishing touches are needed? Who should add what to whom, and so forth?

Why? Coz suddenly I've been thinking Garland is the perfect guy to give ROR to C now that his best bud Frenchy is gone.

Any other questions, please direct them to our head of PR Maureen.

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STL

VAN

Tarasenko, Vladimir

Détails additionnels:

Vova actually goes to NJ, who send Severson to VAN.

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	82 500 000 $	74 955 833 $	1 100 000 $	165 000 $	7 544 167 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4	O'Reilly, Ryan 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ C UFA - 1	Kyrou, Jordan 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Barbashev, Ivan 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Thomas, Robert 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Buchnevich, Pavel 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 3
Saad, Brandon 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 4	Schenn, Brayden 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 6	Neighbours, Jake 835 833 $835 833 $ (82 500 $$82K) AG, AD RFA - 3
Walker, Nathan 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1		Toropchenko, Alexey 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
	Acciari, Noel 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Leddy, Nick 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 4	Parayko, Colton 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 8	Binnington, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NTC UFA - 5
Krug, Torey 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 5	Faulk, Justin 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 5	Hofer, Joel 795 000 $795 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) G RFA - 1
Perunovich, Scott 750 000 $750 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Bortuzzo, Robert 950 000 $950 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Leivo, Josh 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Scandella, Marco 3 275 000 $3 275 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2
Mikkola, Niko 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Brown, Logan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Greiss, Thomas 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (125 000 $$125K125 000 $$125K) (250 000 $$250K) G UFA - 1

5 sept. 2022 à 23 h 13

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Do you think Tarasenko will be moved before the season?

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5 sept. 2022 à 23 h 18

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From Vancouvers perspective, we would want to know what it would take to extend Severson and probably wouldn't add Woo. Garland for Severson seems pretty fair if we can extend him.

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5 sept. 2022 à 23 h 31

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Quoting: audiodave

From Vancouvers perspective, we would want to know what it would take to extend Severson and probably wouldn't add Woo. Garland for Severson seems pretty fair if we can extend him.

Presume Severson comes with a tidy extension. And I'm sure the Blues would be willing to throw VAN a mid prospect back for Woo, whom they clearly don't like for some reason.

5 sept. 2022 à 23 h 32

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Do you think Tarasenko will be moved before the season?

No, but perhaps early-ish. One reason I have Hofer up, it's not necessarily meant for now.

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5 sept. 2022 à 23 h 52

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Quoting: mokumboi

No, but perhaps early-ish. One reason I have Hofer up, it's not necessarily meant for now.

I think the priority for an early season or late off-season trade is to free up room for Perunovich to hop into the lineup. No reason in keeping Scandella and Mikkola in the press box when Rosen and Kessel can come up when anyone gets hurt.

6 sept. 2022 à 0 h 24

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Injuries happen. I think Army got spooked by having a D injury/illness crisis three straight playoffs. I kinda don't blame him. But yeah, one of those guys can probably go, which one might depend on if Mikko is ready to be consistent. Or on what we could get for him.

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6 sept. 2022 à 0 h 44

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Do people actually take the time to look at other teams cap space? Vancouver is already about $2,751,000 over the cap. Taking on Garland for Tarasenko isn't going to cut it.

6 sept. 2022 à 0 h 54

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Do people actually take the time to look at other teams cap space? Vancouver is already about $2,751,000 over the cap. Taking on Garland for Tarasenko isn't going to cut it.

Dude, Tarasenko goes to NJ.

6 sept. 2022 à 1 h 19

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Severson is an option, but is he really what Vancouver needs? I would wait until TDL to see the Canucks in action and look at Severson's analytics

6 sept. 2022 à 1 h 22

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Also, I read this article from 2020 about Severson. https://devilsarmynetwork.com/articles/damon-severson-elite/
Does this article's description of Severson still hold

6 sept. 2022 à 1 h 32

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Quoting: BoudreauFan

Severson is an option, but is he really what Vancouver needs? I would wait until TDL to see the Canucks in action and look at Severson's analytics

I've seen loads of Canucks AGMs trying to get Severson.

6 sept. 2022 à 3 h 42

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Quoting: mokumboi

I've seen loads of Canucks AGMs trying to get Severson.

Do you think Severson is good for Canucks

6 sept. 2022 à 3 h 49

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Quoting: BoudreauFan

Do you think Severson is good for Canucks

If they want to win, he is. They need an RD upgrade in the ranks.

6 sept. 2022 à 3 h 52

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Thanks so much. You are definitely right. I would be okay with the 3 way trade. I am not too high on Jett Woo but would prefer to ship Viktor Persson instead of Woo.

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6 sept. 2022 à 14 h 41

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I like this (obviously VT my fav player so id hurt) but Woo might get stuck here like he does in VAN

Does Van go for it Maybe but i think they would then they wont have to trade Pearson

6 sept. 2022 à 15 h 42

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Quoting: xercuses

I like this (obviously VT my fav player so id hurt) but Woo might get stuck here like he does in VAN

Does Van go for it Maybe but i think they would then they wont have to trade Pearson

Woo can be groomed to take Bortz's spot in 24-25.

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9 sept. 2022 à 19 h 35

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Woo doesn't interest me at all, I think the Blues have equal defensive prospects to him and I don't see him actually making the NHL regularly. Garland is intriguing, however with the JT Miller deal I think the Cancucks are wanting to make a run at the playoffs and losing Garland hurts them

9 sept. 2022 à 21 h 19

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Quoting: RClay321

1- We don't have an RD prospect of Woo's playing style (or an LD, for that matter). Unlike Vancounver apparently, I think the kid has the game to step in for Bortz after 23/24.

2- Yes, but Severson would help them. Gotta give to get.

9 sept. 2022 à 22 h 26

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Quoting: mokumboi

Parayko and Faulk are both locked up long term, Kessel is better than Woo. Woo will not be a NHLer, not saying Kessel will, however he has a better shot than Woo

9 sept. 2022 à 23 h 4

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Quoting: RClay321

Parayko and Faulk are both locked up long term, Kessel is better than Woo. Woo will not be a NHLer, not saying Kessel will, however he has a better shot than Woo

Setting aside that I don't agree on Kessel being a better prospect than Woo, they are very different types of D-men. And I said he'd be there to groom for Bortuzzo's place. Faulk and Parayko are irrelevant.

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