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Top 20 dmen currently

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Date de création initiale: 3 sept. 2022
Publié: 3 sept. 2022
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Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
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DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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9 059 000 $9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Stars de Dallas
8 450 000 $8 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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9 583 333 $9 583 333 $
DG
UFA - 6
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3 sept. 2022 à 12 h 9
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I could quibble with the order but this is a very defensible list. Good job
3 sept. 2022 à 12 h 11
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mcavoy at 7 is a joke.

he is a tier 2 caliber dman with fox/hedman and josi
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3 sept. 2022 à 12 h 13
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Just curious, how far from your cutoff is Faulk?
3 sept. 2022 à 12 h 34
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How the heck do you have Heiskanen and Slavin ahead of McAvoy? McAvoy is a better version of both of them.
3 sept. 2022 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: Dekes
mcavoy at 7 is a joke.

he is a tier 2 caliber dman with fox/hedman and josi


You're calling Victor Hedman a "tier 2" Defenseman that's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks
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3 sept. 2022 à 12 h 37
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You're calling Victor Hedman a "tier 2" Defenseman that's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks


I think they are just trying to say Makar is #1 barring none
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3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 3
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
You're calling Victor Hedman a "tier 2" Defenseman that's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks


See @ledge_and_dairy comment. Hedman is clearly the 2nd best dman in the league, but Makar is generational. No knock on him.
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 11
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Spurgeon too high, Weegar too low.
Seider and Werenski being in here over Rasmus Andersson is borderline criminal.

Still better than NHL.com ig
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Tintin
Spurgeon too high, Weegar too low.
Seider and Werenski being in here over Rasmus Andersson is borderline criminal.

Still better than NHL.com ig


What? Werenski clears Rasmus Andersson, I will agree that Seider is too high though, the guy’s played 1 season, let’s chill a bit
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
What? Werenski clears Rasmus Andersson


i really don't think so, Andersson clear.
Werenski top 30 probably.
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: Tintin
i really don't think so, Andersson clear.
Werenski top 30 probably.


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3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
You're calling Victor Hedman a "tier 2" Defenseman that's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks


ya this is no knock on hedman but no one is on makar's tier right now
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3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 25
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NHL.Com just listed Moritz Seider #11 so he's at least 4 levels higher than this.
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 30
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Quoting: Xqb15a
See ledge_and_dairy comment. Hedman is clearly the 2nd best dman in the league, but Makar is generational. No knock on him.


i wouldn't even say he is number 2 anymore.

mcavoy and fox have both been then best 2way dominant dmen for the last 2 years now, hedman is starting to rely on PP now a little bit.

this season hedman was in the bottom 25% 5v5 defensively and he faced the bottom 46% quality of competition. yes he is still a good dman but even his 5v5 offence was in the bottom 48%. the only standout analytics he had were his finishing, G/60 and PP

i think he is becoming slightly overrated due to his name now, i actually have him as my number 5 dman and i think after this season their is a high chance, heiskanen/ slavin/ seider/ ekblad could rise above him
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3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 38
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i really don't think so, Andersson clear.
Werenski top 30 probably.


Werenski's a #1 D, Andersson's a #2 D at best, i don't see how he's better than Werenski
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 43
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Can't wait for the NHL community to finally start respecting Dahlin. Criminal not having him in the top 20. Reminder he's only 22
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Dekes
mcavoy at 7 is a joke.

he is a tier 2 caliber dman with fox/hedman and josi


Quoting: cMac73
How the heck do you have Heiskanen and Slavin ahead of McAvoy? McAvoy is a better version of both of them.


I think numbers 4/5-8 are interchangeable and personal preference. McAvoy is amazing, and him being from Long Island gets extra brownie points for me. I think him being at 7 is more of a testament to how good some of the dmen in the league are now rather than a knock on hkm
3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: Skyraider112
Can't wait for the NHL community to finally start respecting Dahlin. Criminal not having him in the top 20. Reminder he's only 22


I love Dahlin, I wouldn’t take him over any of these guys though
3 sept. 2022 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Dekes
i wouldn't even say he is number 2 anymore.

mcavoy and fox have both been then best 2way dominant dmen for the last 2 years now, hedman is starting to rely on PP now a little bit.

this season hedman was in the bottom 25% 5v5 defensively and he faced the bottom 46% quality of competition. yes he is still a good dman but even his 5v5 offence was in the bottom 48%. the only standout analytics he had were his finishing, G/60 and PP

i think he is becoming slightly overrated due to his name now, i actually have him as my number 5 dman and i think after this season their is a high chance, heiskanen/ slavin/ seider/ ekblad could rise above him


I mean he has been a Norris finalist 7 years in a row and won it twice. Are other guys closing the gap absolutely. But if you a dman for one season or one playoff run right now it’d be hard to argue against him. Entirely my own opinion but I think there is a clear cut 1 Makar, right and I mean right behind him in no particular order is Hedman McAvoy and Fox if you wanted to put McAvoy and Fox ahead of him I wouldn’t argue that but those 4 imo are clearly the 4 best dmen in the league.
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3 sept. 2022 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Dekes
i wouldn't even say he is number 2 anymore.

mcavoy and fox have both been then best 2way dominant dmen for the last 2 years now, hedman is starting to rely on PP now a little bit.

this season hedman was in the bottom 25% 5v5 defensively and he faced the bottom 46% quality of competition. yes he is still a good dman but even his 5v5 offence was in the bottom 48%. the only standout analytics he had were his finishing, G/60 and PP

i think he is becoming slightly overrated due to his name now, i actually have him as my number 5 dman and i think after this season their is a high chance, heiskanen/ slavin/ seider/ ekblad could rise above him


What are you basing these percentiles on? That doesn't seem accurate at all to me
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3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 21
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What are you basing these percentiles on? That doesn't seem accurate at all to me


jfresh player cards search him up
3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: Dekes
jfresh player cards search him up


Are you using outdated data? I don't pay for JFresh cards but you can get the raw data from here: TopDownHockey

Depending on what minimum TOI cutoffs you use, in the 2021-2022 season among D men he's approx in the 98th percentile in EV offense, 67th percentile in EV defense, 94th percentile in shooting, 63rd percentile in penalties, 86th percentile in PP, and 95th percentile in PK

Maybe you are using a 3 year weighted average? He had a down year in 20-21 but he's back to his elite self now
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3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 41
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Are you using outdated data? I don't pay for JFresh cards but you can get the raw data from here: TopDownHockey

Depending on what minimum TOI cutoffs you use, in the 2021-2022 season among D men he's approx in the 98th percentile in EV offense, 67th percentile in EV defense, 94th percentile in shooting, 63rd percentile in penalties, 86th percentile in PP, and 95th percentile in PK

Maybe you are using a 3 year weighted average? He had a down year in 20-21 but he's back to his elite self now


oh maybe it could have been his 3 year weighted data, i aswell don't pay for it i just wait for them to get posted on twitter for free
3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 46
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Quoting: Dekes
oh maybe it could have been his 3 year weighted data, i aswell don't pay for it i just wait for them to get posted on twitter for free


Hedman was quite literally the 3rd highest scoring defenseman at 5v5 last year. 5th if you look at the past 3 years. Your numbers are bunk.
3 sept. 2022 à 17 h 1
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I think they are just trying to say Makar is #1 barring none


Quoting: Xqb15a
See @ledge_and_dairy comment. Hedman is clearly the 2nd best dman in the league, but Makar is generational. No knock on him.


Quoting: Dekes
ya this is no knock on hedman but no one is on makar's tier right now


I'll respectfully COMPLETELY DISAGREE with y'all!!!!!!!!
Makar isn't nearly as good in his end or close to as physical!!
 
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