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Vancouver Canucks signed J.T. Miller (7 Years / $8,000,000 AAV)

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3 sept. à 15 h 27
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
They won't get worse, I just think the teams around them got better than they did. I also don't see that pace with Boudreau for the full year.


Calgary didn't get better, at best they're as good as they were last year. Even though LA added Fiala, they have a handful of X-factors that could break wrong for them. Edmonton looks strong, but their blueline is still suspect, and we can't be entirely sure what version of Jack Campbell they're getting. Vegas obviously got weaker
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Vancouver's defense is mediocre at worst.



Mediocre basically means average or nothing special.

Vancouver's defense isn't even mediocre at best.

They're 20th-30th best, depending on how they play.
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4 sept. à 2 h 53
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Mediocre basically means average or nothing special.

Vancouver's defense isn't even mediocre at best.

They're 20th-30th best, depending on how they play.


No, they're between 14th-19th best, and I know what mediocre is
4 sept. à 9 h 14
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No, they're between 14th-19th best, and I know what mediocre is


Are you saying Vancouver's defense in 14th-19th best in the NHL?

Will you list 13 teams that this defense is clearly better than?


Ekman Larsson - Tyler Myers
Quinn Hughes - Luke Schenn
Trav Dermott - Tuck Poolman
Brady Keeper - Kyle Buroughs
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Defense Cap Hit = $28,000,000


I left out Rathbone + Juulsen + Wolanin.

None of them played 10 games last year.
4 sept. à 11 h 23
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I voted yes because he's a star player, and 8 million for a star player isn't that bad. I would much rather have Miller than the typical fringe top 6 players with 5-6 million contracts.
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4 sept. à 13 h 18
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Last 2 years? They'll be lucky if it doesn't hurt year 3 of his contract. Guys that play his style of game don't age well. If he's 32 and still PPG i'd be amazed.


Miller skates well, and has hardly missed any time- very durable player. Now if it was Boeser....then you have a point- Boeser doesnt play physical at all- and cant stay healthy. While the comparison for Miller is often Kesler, in many ways Linden would be more accurate.
4 sept. à 15 h 4
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Miller skates well, and has hardly missed any time- very durable player. Now if it was Boeser....then you have a point- Boeser doesnt play physical at all- and cant stay healthy. While the comparison for Miller is often Kesler, in many ways Linden would be more accurate.


Jamie Benn hardly missed any time before his hip injury. He only missed 10 games in 6 years. Father time comes for everyone. Bigger guys that play a gritty game are his favorite.
4 sept. à 21 h 47
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Are you saying Vancouver's defense in 14th-19th best in the NHL?

Will you list 13 teams that this defense is clearly better than?


Ekman Larsson - Tyler Myers
Quinn Hughes - Luke Schenn
Trav Dermott - Tuck Poolman
Brady Keeper - Kyle Buroughs
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Defense Cap Hit = $28,000,000


I left out Rathbone + Juulsen + Wolanin.

None of them played 10 games last year.


Of course, I'll list 13 teams with better bluelines than Vancouver just for you:

Carolina, Calgary, Toronto, New Jersey, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Vegas, Nashville, Los Angeles, Colorado, Minnesota, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, Pittsburgh Penguins, Washington Capitals

All right, that's actually 15, but it still fits within my projection
4 sept. à 22 h 41
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Of course, I'll list 13 teams with better bluelines than Vancouver just for you:

Carolina, Calgary, Toronto, New Jersey, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Vegas, Nashville, Los Angeles, Colorado, Minnesota, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, Pittsburgh Penguins, Washington Capitals

All right, that's actually 15, but it still fits within my projection


You forgot Boston, Buffalo and Edmonton
5 sept. à 3 h 0
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Honeymoon wins, in "garbage" time; happens every season in the NHL.


They were a 102-point team, even if you ignore half the 8-game winning streak.
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5 sept. à 3 h 1
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Mediocre basically means average or nothing special.

Vancouver's defense isn't even mediocre at best.

They're 20th-30th best, depending on how they play.


They had the 8th BEST Goals Against last season. You can't put that all on Demko.
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5 sept. à 3 h 17
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They won't get worse, I just think the teams around them got better than they did. I also don't see that pace with Boudreau for the full year.


What teams around them got better?

Calgary remains the same IF AND ONLY IF the new parts gel with the team.
Edmonton got worse. Campbell was good in October, GODLY in November, good in December, then below .900 save percentage for the next three months. His overall Saves Above Expected was NEGATIVE for the year. Smith was positive.
Los Angeles got some key parts, but they are relying on a 36-year old goaltender who had his best season in four years. That's unlikely to last.
Vegas is a mess and will be missing several key pieces for weeks, if not months.
The other three teams in the Pacific are so far back that they won't matter.

The biggest new signing for Dallas was Marchment, which isn't a great deal, while the lost Klingberg.
Nashville got better.
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5 sept. à 9 h 3
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What teams around them got better?

Calgary remains the same IF AND ONLY IF the new parts gel with the team.
Edmonton got worse. Campbell was good in October, GODLY in November, good in December, then below .900 save percentage for the next three months. His overall Saves Above Expected was NEGATIVE for the year. Smith was positive.
Los Angeles got some key parts, but they are relying on a 36-year old goaltender who had his best season in four years. That's unlikely to last.
Vegas is a mess and will be missing several key pieces for weeks, if not months.
The other three teams in the Pacific are so far back that they won't matter.

The biggest new signing for Dallas was Marchment, which isn't a great deal, while the lost Klingberg.
Nashville got better.


I was looking at Edmonton/Calgary/Vegas as part of that statement because I think they're leaps and bounds better than the other teams in the division.

LA is sort of the in same situation as Anaheim, tons of young stars and up and comers that could all have breakout years. Byfield/Kaliyev/Kupari/Vilardi.
5 sept. à 11 h 29
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
They were a 102-point team, even if you ignore half the 8-game winning streak.


Ahhh, they were a 92-point team.
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5 sept. à 18 h 2
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Ahhh, they were a 92-point team.
Game is not played on 'paper'...


He's extrapolating their winning percentage specifically under Bruce Boudreau
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5 sept. à 18 h 4
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You forgot Boston, Buffalo and Edmonton


Edmonton's blueline isn't better than Vancouver's. Buffalo's blueline is still relatively unproven, but it certainly could be better
5 sept. à 18 h 5
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Quoting: DDoverChucky
I voted yes because he's a star player, and 8 million for a star player isn't that bad. I would much rather have Miller than the typical fringe top 6 players with 5-6 million contracts.


*cough* *cough* Ondrej Palat *cough*
5 sept. à 18 h 9
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Edmonton's blueline isn't better than Vancouver's. Buffalo's blueline is still relatively unproven, but it certainly could be better


Hughes = Bouchard . Nurse is better than any other Dman Vancouver has, same with Kulak
5 sept. à 18 h 19
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Hughes = Bouchard . Nurse is better than any other Dman Vancouver has, same with Kulak


Hughes is better than both Bouchard and Nurse. Ekman-Larsson > Kulak, Myers = Kulak
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5 sept. à 18 h 33
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Hughes is better than both Bouchard and Nurse. Ekman-Larsson > Kulak, Myers = Kulak


Myers is not better than Kulak, he is a pylon
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Myers is not better than Kulak, he is a pylon


You have no idea what you're talking about if you think Myers is a pylon. You're only making yourself look stupid
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5 sept. à 19 h 15
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You have no idea what you're talking about if you think Myers is a pylon. You're only making yourself look stupid


Myers might have the lowest IQ among defenseman in the league
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Myers might have the lowest IQ among defenseman in the league


That's still a dumb take
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I was looking at Edmonton/Calgary/Vegas as part of that statement because I think they're leaps and bounds better than the other teams in the division.


And two of those three teams got worse and the other stayed the same.

Of the teams the Canucks are competing with, only Nashville got better.
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