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If Rantanen becomes their 2nd line center

Créé par: Kc91
Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 2 sept. 2022
Publié: 2 sept. 2022
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And if Boston is out of playoff contention by the trade deadline and their future is looking a little bleak, pastrnak might look for a cup contender before he signs his big contract which the avs try to make room for.... try to.

Just a thought, not too serious about this
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3 sept. 2022 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
According to you. You've undervalued Pastrnak far too much to even have the thought that this trade would benefit the Bruins.


How do I undervalue him? He's a rental end of the day. Go look up what Pittsburgh paid for Marian Hossa if you want a good trade value for an elite rental in their mid/late 20's
3 sept. 2022 à 14 h 46
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How do I undervalue him? He's a rental end of the day. Go look up what Pittsburgh paid for Marian Hossa if you want a good trade value for an elite rental in their mid/late 20's


Already explained the return. A d-man they don't need, a late 1st, and Newhook. Newhook is the only piece the Bruins need from that.
3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Bruins already have 5 LHDs. Don't need Girard even if he plays the right side. A late 1st does nothing as Sweeney would use it to take another 4th line potential center. Newhook is nice, but I'd rather just keep Pastrnak. You all seem to live in a fantasy world where Pastrnak is on the trade block. Bruins would have to be blown away by an offer to move him.


Or potentially let Pasta walk
Take off your homer glasses dude
3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 32
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I've already explained they don't win this trade.

AGAIN….
what do u think you’re gonna get for a rental at the deadline?
3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 36
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Would be a mistake to trade him as a rental, instead they should try to trade him to a team that he would want to sign with and that can, so that they can fetch a great return.


Well sure,
but that’s completely changing the parameters of this ACGM
It’s a completely different convo
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3 sept. 2022 à 15 h 40
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Well sure,
but that’s completely changing the parameters of this ACGM
It’s a completely different convo


Still though even if they are trading him as a rental they should try to acquire pieces that will allow them to continue being competitive which means they will need forwards with top 6 potential, maybe a pucking moving RHD prospect if they don't have one of those already in the system. Girard is nice but they don't need to stack their left side when they will probably have more pressing need in improving their top 6 in the coming years. Jost is fine as a young player that has top 6 potential, but they will need more still.
3 sept. 2022 à 21 h 15
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Already explained the return. A d-man they don't need, a late 1st, and Newhook. Newhook is the only piece the Bruins need from that.


Let me get this straight. If Pasta is sold at the deadline Boston is at the very least entering a partial rebuild.

Since 2018 Boston has made only 2 1st round draft selections, and only one of those picks seems to have legitimate promise today. So how does another first in a very deep draft not help?

To continue, going into next season Boston will have 4 defensmen on the final year of their contract and 3 will be 30+. Im not sure if you checked recently but Girard is 24.

How does none of that fit team needs? Because to me they fit exactly what Boston would want
4 sept. 2022 à 4 h 24
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Quoting: GMBL
Still though even if they are trading him as a rental they should try to acquire pieces that will allow them to continue being competitive which means they will need forwards with top 6 potential, maybe a pucking moving RHD prospect if they don't have one of those already in the system. Girard is nice but they don't need to stack their left side when they will probably have more pressing need in improving their top 6 in the coming years. Jost is fine as a young player that has top 6 potential, but they will need more still.


Maybe Girard isn’t the “perfect” piece,
but he’s still a good one
And along with Newhook & a 1st,
That would be a legit package at the deadline
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4 sept. 2022 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: Buffalove
AGAIN….
what do u think you’re gonna get for a rental at the deadline?


They won't trade him as a rental at the deadline.
4 sept. 2022 à 13 h 48
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Let me get this straight. If Pasta is sold at the deadline Boston is at the very least entering a partial rebuild.

Since 2018 Boston has made only 2 1st round draft selections, and only one of those picks seems to have legitimate promise today. So how does another first in a very deep draft not help?

To continue, going into next season Boston will have 4 defensmen on the final year of their contract and 3 will be 30+. Im not sure if you checked recently but Girard is 24.

How does none of that fit team needs? Because to me they fit exactly what Boston would want


Lot of money tied up in McAvoy, Lindholm, Carlo, Grzelcyk, Forbort, and Reilly. You can't spend all your cap space on D-men and expect to score enough goals to win enough games.
Sweeney is awful at drafting. Latest draft pick that played a game for the Bruins was drafted in 2017.
Pretty simple answer I'm sure you're looking for since you're trying to break this down Barney-style in order to comprehend it with your cognitive ability.
4 sept. 2022 à 14 h 8
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Lot of money tied up in McAvoy, Lindholm, Carlo, Grzelcyk, Forbort, and Reilly. You can't spend all your cap space on D-men and expect to score enough goals to win enough games.
Sweeney is awful at drafting. Latest draft pick that played a game for the Bruins was drafted in 2017.
Pretty simple answer I'm sure you're looking for since you're trying to break this down Barney-style in order to comprehend it with your cognitive ability.


LMAO Is he bad at drafting or just throws all his draft picks out the window with the kitchen sink? 2017 wasn't that long ago prospect development wise. Players drafted by in in the in the 2nd half of 2020's 1st round and back are only just starting to enter the NHL now. That leaves just 2-3 draft years. 2018, 2019, and maybe 2020. Generally later round prospects aren't expected to make it at all so that leaves your higher round picks as realistic options. That's 3 picks in the 1st 2 rounds across 3 drafts. 1 was traded, 1 is struggling, and 1 is progressing well albeit playing in NCAA.

As for your defense. Generally in a rebuild winning more games is worse, correct me if I'm wrong though. And again Grzelcyk, Forbert, Reilly, and Zboril are all going to be pending UFA's. Girard is strictly younger than all but 1 of them (Zboril) and a clear upgrade on all of them. Then there is the idea that all 4 of those players can be flipped for more value as well. Or is that idea too hard for you to comprehend.

Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
They won't trade him as a rental at the deadline.


And it's this statements like this that are stupid. There is a very solid chance that Boston simply doesn't make the playoffs this season, Bergeron and Krejci retire, and Pasta walks in the offseason. saying "nope they wont him" is being completely ignorant to a very possible reality. Maybe instead of bluntly refusing to trade him entertain the concept a little. This is a trade board after all and him being moved is quite realistic
 
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