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Taking a risk for 1st Overall in 2023

Créé par: BadaBing
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2022
Publié: 31 août 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Description
HABS take a chance to get 2 of the following 4 players (Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli or Dolibor) for the Final pieces of the Rebuild
The thought is that the HABS future lines are
Slafkovsky, Bedard, Caufield
Farrell, Dach, Michkov
Anderson, Monahan, Gallagher (eventually replaced by Roy)
Mysak, Dvorak, Ylonen
Towes would be traded at the TDL as well as Dadinov and Drouin.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dach, Kirby22 000 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Toews, Jonathan
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (CHI)
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 1e (TBL)
CHI
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Suzuki, Nick
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $75 951 666 $1 132 500 $5 070 000 $6 548 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Dadonov, Evgeni
5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Toews, Jonathan
10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AG
RFA - 1
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Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Monahan, Sean
6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Dach, Kirby
2 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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Pitlick, Rem
1 100 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
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Evans, Jake
1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Barron, Justin
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Montembeault, Samuel
1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Harris, Jordan
842 500 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Wideman, Chris
762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Slafkovsky, Juraj
950 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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Pezzetta, Michael
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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31 août 2022 à 13 h 44
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Not a Chance Chicago does this.

They are 82 Regular Season Games away from being in the top 3 of a talented draft.
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31 août 2022 à 13 h 45
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No way Chicago even considers that trade. They likely finish bottom 3 in the league, any one of the top 3 picks should be better than Suzuki as well as closer in age to the players they just drafted.
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31 août 2022 à 13 h 46
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Chicago doesn't even consider this trade
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31 août 2022 à 13 h 48
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No way.

There’s no way Montreal considers trading Suzuki, even if it is for Chicago’s first. Even if we get an outright 1C in the 2023 draft (Bedard or Fantilli) with our own pick, Suzuki is signed to a deal that will be good value as it goes on.

Even as a 2C on a contending team, $7.8 million is good.

Nor do I think Chicago would do it either. They’re trying hard to be bad.
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31 août 2022 à 13 h 52
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Think about it this way. Would you trade away your top 3 pick, and likely top 10 pick in the next year for Suzuki? Trading away a chance at Bedard, Fantilli, or Michkov for low end 1C/2C is just terrible asset management
31 août 2022 à 13 h 53
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Quoting: liamarchibald00
No way.

There’s no way Montreal considers trading Suzuki, even if it is for Chicago’s first. Even if we get an outright 1C in the 2023 draft (Bedard or Fantilli) with our own pick, Suzuki is signed to a deal that will be good value as it goes on.

Even as a 2C on a contending team, $7.8 million is good.

Nor do I think Chicago would do it either. They’re trying hard to be bad.


I think all 31 other teams in the league would rather have a generational player like Bedard and Michkov than a 2C...
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31 août 2022 à 13 h 57
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Montreal's in a decent position to win the Bedard Sweepstakes as it is, so I don't know why they would make this deal. Trading Suzuki for a chance to get another Bedard lottery ticket is the textbook example of the "Sure we have a boat, but -anything- could be in the mystery box - even a boat!" trade if I've ever seen one. If the deal was post-lottery for a guaranteed 1OA? Yeah, sure do it (Chicago would decline). But at this point in time, you're just amassing more potential chances. And even if your pick and Chicago's wind up a 2 & 3, they're still not going to be enough to convince whoever's at 1OA to trade back.

Moot point though, because Chicago declines. If they move Toews, it's for futures, not NHL-ready players making $7.8M already.
31 août 2022 à 13 h 59
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Rebuilding team trades away 2 first round picks. Have you put an ounce of thought into how this helps Chicago?
31 août 2022 à 14 h 2
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Montreal's in a decent position to win the Bedard Sweepstakes as it is, so I don't know why they would make this deal. Trading Suzuki for a chance to get another Bedard lottery ticket is the textbook example of the "Sure we have a boat, but -anything- could be in the mystery box - even a boat!" trade if I've ever seen one. If the deal was post-lottery for a guaranteed 1OA? Yeah, sure do it (Chicago would decline). But at this point in time, you're just amassing more potential chances. And even if your pick and Chicago's wind up a 2 & 3, they're still not going to be enough to convince whoever's at 1OA to trade back.

Moot point though, because Chicago declines. If they move Toews, it's for futures, not NHL-ready players making $7.8M already.


Pretty much everybody in the top 10 in the 2023 draft will likely be better than Suzuki. He is a 2C on a contender. Chicago is basically a lock for a top 3 pick. You don't trade those chances for a 2C
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31 août 2022 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: Juiceman
Pretty much everybody in the top 10 in the 2023 draft will likely be better than Suzuki. He is a 2C on a contender. Chicago is basically a lock for a top 3 pick. You don't trade those chances for a 2C


Debrincat got the 7th overall in a weak draft. People saying they wouldn’t trade Suzuki for a top 3 pick, another first in a very strongly draft and Toews are delusional.
31 août 2022 à 14 h 52
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If we've learned anything about the Blackhawks this summer, it's that they don't want 23 year old elite forwards lol
31 août 2022 à 18 h 43
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Just... No.
 
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