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Making the Oilers good for once

Créé par: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 28 août 2022
Publié: 28 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
3.
4.
EDM
  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
2026 1st round pick (EDM)
2027 1st round pick (EDM)
2028 1st round pick (EDM)
5.
EDM
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler (2 375 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $67 826 000 $896 000 $850 000 $14 674 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
-2 625 000 $-2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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28 août 2022 à 2 h 49
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You forgot the kitchen sink in the Ducks deal.

I mean, yeah, we'd probably take it on the assumption that we can get three useful years out of Campbell and if two or three of the prospects hit were set.
28 août 2022 à 2 h 58
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The only good thing out of these trades would be Holland getting chased out of town by the fans.
28 août 2022 à 3 h 9
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Detroit declines that offer.

We have no roster spot open on RD for Bouchard (who is a very good player) and we have no replacement for Bert.
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28 août 2022 à 3 h 11
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
You forgot the kitchen sink in the Ducks deal.

I mean, yeah, we'd probably take it on the assumption that we can get three useful years out of Campbell and if two or three of the prospects hit were set.


Kids are in it to win it
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28 août 2022 à 9 h 8
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Making the Oilers good for once??? They did make it out of the 1st round in fact they made it all the way to the conference finals.
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28 août 2022 à 9 h 43
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Detroit declines that offer.

We have no roster spot open on RD for Bouchard (who is a very good player) and we have no replacement for Bert.


I would find a new home for Hronek in this case.
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28 août 2022 à 11 h 53
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Since it would take at minimum those 2 firsts alone to dump Nurse on Arizona, what are you planning on giving up for Chychrun? Seattle has already addressed their big issues on defense, and they won’t pay for Barrie, so unless Edmonton plans on sending that 2nd rounder to Seattle, there is no deal to be made. Anaheim probably takes that deal, but who knows. Chicago doesn’t consider that deal, with no first rounders in it, since I’m pretty sure you can only send draft capital for as of right now, 2023-2025, so 2026-2028 would be off limits. And then Detroit would have to move Hronek to make that trade.

The only semi realistic trade is the Anaheim trade, and I doubt Edmonton considers moving all those pieces.
28 août 2022 à 12 h 2
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Making the Oilers good for once. They look worse.
28 août 2022 à 12 h 6
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I would find a new home for Hronek in this case.


Yes but where? There aren't that many teams looking for an offensive RD that have room under the cap and also can offer us a Bert-replacement in return.

Bert will net us at least 2 1st round picks at the deadline or a top prospect and a 1st. This seems very underwhelming as an offer.
28 août 2022 à 12 h 8
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1. Nurse is worse than Chychrun. The firsts would be low.
2. Barrie to SEA down make sense. They have Borgen, Larsson and Schultz already.
3. What the…
4. Campbell is bette Ethan Gibson off the bat and a 1st and a prospect is need to give up for Klingberg. No need to add the 2nd, McLeod, Puljujarvi, Bourgault, Holloway and Benson.
5. What in the world is that Kane trade.
1-2 firsts. A prospect and a solid roster player. Expect 50% RS and maybe and additional 3rd. You don’t need to add Foegele, the 2nds and an extra 1st.
6. Detroit already has RHD.
28 août 2022 à 13 h 23
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Yes but where? There aren't that many teams looking for an offensive RD that have room under the cap and also can offer us a Bert-replacement in return.

Bert will net us at least 2 1st round picks at the deadline or a top prospect and a 1st. This seems very underwhelming as an offer.


I wasn't speaking of the value of the trade just the fact I would take Bouchard in a heart beat and deal with making room later.
28 août 2022 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: Scooter81
1. Nurse is worse than Chychrun. The firsts would be low.
2. Barrie to SEA down make sense. They have Borgen, Larsson and Schultz already.
3. What the…
4. Campbell is bette Ethan Gibson off the bat and a 1st and a prospect is need to give up for Klingberg. No need to add the 2nd, McLeod, Puljujarvi, Bourgault, Holloway and Benson.
5. What in the world is that Kane trade.
1-2 firsts. A prospect and a solid roster player. Expect 50% RS and maybe and additional 3rd. You don’t need to add Foegele, the 2nds and an extra 1st.
6. Detroit already has RHD.


Soups isn't better than Gibson. He's older, more injury prone, and WAY more mercurial. Yeah, he came out of the gate storming last season but was replacement grade the second half of the year.
28 août 2022 à 20 h 43
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laugh laugh We're talking Ken Holland here, Ken Holland isn't capable of making moves like this.

Detroit passes, Bertuzzi is worth far more than Bouchard and a late 3rd round pick. And i guess you missed the memo were Bertuzzi still can't play in Canada.
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29 août 2022 à 0 h 42
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh laugh We're talking Ken Holland here, Ken Holland isn't capable of making moves like this.

Detroit passes, Bertuzzi is worth far more than Bouchard and a late 3rd round pick. And i guess you missed the memo were Bertuzzi still can't play in Canada.


Vax status makes this unlikely, but being traded to a Canadian team would mean he'd miss a ton of games . He'd have to stay in Canada, so you figure 41 home games and what, 15 games away in Canada? So 56 or so games he gets paid, and misses another 26 or so. That costs him about a third of his salary.

Unless the vax rules change in Canada, Bertuzzi has strained value. Of course, if the rules changed, Bertuzzi is a very hot commodity that will have a bidding war at the deadline if Detroit is out of playoff contention and not close to a deal to re-sign Bertuzzi.

I'd be quite happy to add Bouchard. The downside is Bertuzzi is not easily replaced, for what he brings to the table. Hronek becomes very tradeable as well, so maybe a team like LA (or any team with a deep pool at forward and a need for a top 4D) will part with a good forward prospect to add Hronek.

If no vax issues, I'd say Bouchard and the low 1st would be pretty fair. Bouchard was Edmonton's best D in the playoffs, and is easily a top 4D already, better than Hronek, whom I am not as down on as many others are.
 
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