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On Trade Deadline day- read explanation or you wont understand

Créé par: Fran615
Date de création initiale: 27 août 2022
Publié: 27 août 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Description
This is when I go into PURE SPECULATION of course, please allow me.
Just like drafting, predicting the future is always a sure way to fail.

This is anticipating decent productions from the players flipped at the trade deadline to contenders who would draft in the 1st round somewhere around 26-32.

DROUIN: on pace for a 15-20G 25-35A so about 50 points, where he can usually hit. If he stays healthy, which no one can know for sure.

DADONOV: on pace for a 20-25G 25-35A so about 55 points, where he can usually hit. If he stays healthy, which no one can know for sure.

MONAHAN: Biggest speculation of all, let's pretend he is on pace for 25-30G 35-40A so about 60 points. If he stays healthy, which no one can know for sure.

I KNOW - these trades are bad. Got it!

But the Habs would likely tank for the remainder of the season and shoot for a Top-5 pick in the 2023 draft with their own pick.

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This is for day 40:

- Monahan has left LTIR and in the lineup

- Byron has left LTIR, and straight to waivers where no one picks him up and sent to AHL.

- Price now gets on LTIR; so that it is a IN-SEASON LTIR, so that there will be no swinging come trade deadline (those who know how LTIR works will get it).

- If the Habs are able to have some decent production from Armia and have a team pick him up, that will open up a lot of cap space to take on more cap dumps later on.
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This was for Day 1:

- Sean Monahan should be put on OFF-season LTIR and removed when he comes back. LTIR is available as long as Monahan doesn't come back before 30 days.

- No one will pick up Byron so sent down to AHL. But he will start also on LTIR in the OFF-SEASON

- Carey Price should only be put there if he starts the season on LTI -- and then put on LTIR. It's complex but there IS a difference . IN SEASON LTIR can be totally taken off the books - not if it is put there before Day 1. So best option is to put Price on Day 1. So Carey Price, contrary to Monahan and Byron, WILL remain on the LTIR all year, so best to put him on there on Day 1 and not before.

- Both Monahan AND Byron will be taken off the LTIR about 1, 2 or 3 months in season. So that will leave the Habs the opportunity to play with retained salaries at the trade deadline, with Dadonov, Monahan and Drouin.

- The ONLY real hope is that someone picks up Mike Hoffman on waivers... although it is not needed right away.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dach, Kirby22 000 000 $
Primeau, Cayden2900 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
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    WAIVERS
    (the cap space works like this even with Deadwood Hoffman on the roster)
    CHI
    1. Hoffman, Mike
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    .
    Any team
    2.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (NYR)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    I know, I know, you guys pass without hesitation right?
    .
    Just pure speculation
    NYR
    1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 3e (MTL)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    READ EXPLANATION
    3.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (COL)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    I know, I know, you guys pass without hesitation right?
    .
    Just pure speculation
    COL
    1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 4e (VGK)
    3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 5e (CGY)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    READ EXPLANATION
    4.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (STL)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    I know, I know, you guys pass without hesitation right?
    .
    Just pure speculation
    STL
    1. Monahan, Sean (3 187 500 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 6e (MTL)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    READ EXPLANATION
    5.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 3e (VGK)
    VGK
    1. Allen, Jake (1 437 500 $ retained)
    6.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (PIT)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    .
    Assuming he has a decent bounce back season and is on the 18G 22A for 40pts range
    PIT
    1. Armia, Joel
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    .
    ANY TEAM
    7.
    MTL
    1. Gardiner, Jake
    2. Choix de 2024 ronde en 4e (CAR)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    Using some free cap space to help other teams
    CAR
    1. Choix de 2024 ronde en 7e (EDM)
    Détails additionnels:
    .
    .
    Any team
    Any similar expiring UFA contract that could be moved for Trade Deadline acquisition
    Rachats de contrats
    • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Evgeni Dadonov: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
    • Jonathan Drouin: 2 750 000 $ (50%)
    • Sean Monahan: 3 187 500 $ (50%)
    • Jake Allen: 1 437 500 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2023
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    Logo de VGK
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    2024
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    Logo de COL
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    Logo de PIT
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    Logo de CAR
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    2025
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    Logo de CGY
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    Logo de MTL
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $69 757 499 $1 132 500 $5 070 000 $12 742 501 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Slafkovsky, Juraj
    950 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Suzuki, Nick
    7 875 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Caufield, Cole
    880 833 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Anderson, Josh
    5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Dach, Kirby
    2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 4
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Gallagher, Brendan
    6 500 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Pitlick, Rem
    1 100 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    Dvorak, Christian
    4 450 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Ylönen, Jesse
    880 833 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
    825 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Evans, Jake
    1 700 000 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Byron, Paul
    3 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Pezzetta, Michael
    750 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Matheson, Michael
    4 875 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Savard, David
    3 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Montembeault, Samuel
    1 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Edmundson, Joel
    3 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Barron, Justin
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Primeau, Cayden
    900 000 $
    G
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Harris, Jordan
    842 500 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Gardiner, Jake
    4 050 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Schueneman, Corey
    750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Wideman, Chris
    762 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    Price, Carey
    10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4

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    27 août 2022 à 15 h 25
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    Xercuses
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    Blues don’t have the cap and
    Honestly monny won’t be worth a first maybe a 3rd
    27 août 2022 à 15 h 58
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    “Jeff Petry will fetch a first round pick” — Habs fans


    Mike Matheson was picked 23rd overall.
    27 août 2022 à 16 h 3
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    Quoting: Haymaker26
    Mike Matheson was picked 23rd overall.


    I knew this was coming!!!!!!!!!
    27 août 2022 à 16 h 11
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    Quoting: Haymaker26
    Mike Matheson was picked 23rd overall.


    Gotta wonder if any of those scouts are currently employed.
    mokumboi a aimé ceci.
    27 août 2022 à 16 h 20
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    The Blues have zero use or cap for Monahan. And you sure as hell ain;t gettin' no damn 1st for Monahan anyway. Obviously. So yes, the Blues pass without hesitation. Obviously.
    27 août 2022 à 17 h 35
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    Several problems:
    1) you're not getting a 1 for either Dadonov, Monahon or Drouin.
    2) you can only have 3 retained salaries.
    3) Armia pulls A 5 maybe a 4 if a teams desperate.
    27 août 2022 à 20 h 13
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    Quoting: jonh514
    To be clear these were games where the final scores were 13 to 10 and guys like Charles Hudson were getting hat tricks..


    Avs legend Charles Hudon?
    27 août 2022 à 21 h 30
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    The blues don't even have the cap to add Monahan at 50%
    27 août 2022 à 23 h 26
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    Avs legend Charles Hudon?


    Charles Hudon ... Typo
     
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