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Possible Trade with Calgary

Créé par: Riddick19
Date de création initiale: 25 août 2022
Publié: 25 août 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Description
In the Calgary trade this is pending the fact that everything works out with the Hockey Canada stuff. If proven innocent? I think this trade works. If not well definitely off the table from Calgary's perspective
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Brännström, Erik21 200 000 $
Formenton, Alex43 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Weegar, MacKenzie
CGY
  1. Formenton, Alex
  2. Thomson, Lassi
2.
OTT
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita
    2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (OTT)
    3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (WSH)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
    • Colin White: 875 000 $
    • Michael Del Zotto: 500 000 $
    • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (25%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $75 373 214 $0 $4 025 000 $7 126 786 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Tkachuk, Brady
    8 205 714 $
    AG
    UFA - 6
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    Norris, Joshua
    7 950 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
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    Batherson, Drake
    4 975 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 5
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    DeBrincat, Alex
    6 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
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    Stützle, Tim
    925 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Giroux, Claude
    6 500 000 $
    AD, C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Greig, Ridly
    863 333 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 3
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    Pinto, Shane
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Joseph, Mathieu
    2 950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
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    Kelly, Parker
    762 500 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    Gambrell, Dylan
    950 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Watson, Austin
    1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Chabot, Thomas
    8 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 6
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    Weegar, MacKenzie
    3 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    Forsberg, Anton
    2 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
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    Sanderson, Jake
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    Zub, Artem
    2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
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    Talbot, Cam
    3 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Brännström, Erik
    1 200 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
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    Hamonic, Travis
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Holden, Nick
    1 300 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Hawryluk, Jayce
    750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1

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    25 août 2022 à 19 h 16
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    Where does Formenton play for us??
    25 août 2022 à 19 h 19
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    easy no for OTT
    25 août 2022 à 19 h 32
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    How so? It makes sense from an Ottawa perspective...

    Dorion has set out to lock up his entire core group. I don't believe Formenton is part of that group. I think they sign and trade him for roughly what they gave Joseph, and flip him to Calgary. Greig is likely good enough to play on the 3rd line with Pinto and Joseph. By start of next season Ottawa likely has;

    Chabot, Zub, Tkachuk, Norris, Stutzle, DeBrincat, Joseph, Pinto, Greig, Sanderson, Giroux, Brannstrom & Batherson all on 2+ year contracts. There won't be much money left next season. So this is the season Ottawa really does the heavy lifting in terms of roster structure. The next season or so is chemistry and team building....Hopefully this season we get a round maybe even 2 rounds. Next season is the gung-ho season.
    25 août 2022 à 19 h 37
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    Where does Formenton play for us??


    What??? I have him as part of a trade going to Calgary in exchange for Weeger.... Weeger goes to Ottawa, Calgary gets Formenton and Lassi Thomson.
    25 août 2022 à 19 h 39
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    What??? I have him as part of a trade going to Calgary in exchange for Weeger.... Weeger goes to Ottawa, Calgary gets Formenton and Lassi Thomson.


    Yea, where does he play for Calgary is what I was saying? We need top line guys. Not middle 6
    25 août 2022 à 19 h 49
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Yea, where does he play for Calgary is what I was saying? We need top line guys. Not middle 6


    Huberdeau & Mangiapane are your top LW's which are pretty strong... Probably need another RW, but need an upgrade from Lucic on the 3rd line as well. Dube could likely be a solid 50 point player on your 2nd line. But Coleman would be an expensive $5M 3rd line player.... So guessing he would be your 2nd line RW. If you move from Coleman? I might agree you might hold onto Weeger to land an upgrade on Coleman. But last I heard Calgary is trying to unload Lucic, and LW where Lucic plays is where Calgary is weakest. In any case it's a fair trade but pending on what Treliving is trying to upgrade will determine if the trade works or not
    25 août 2022 à 19 h 55
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    Quoting: Riddick19
    Huberdeau & Mangiapane are your top LW's which are pretty strong... Probably need another RW, but need an upgrade from Lucic on the 3rd line as well. Dube could likely be a solid 50 point player on your 2nd line. But Coleman would be an expensive $5M 3rd line player.... So guessing he would be your 2nd line RW. If you move from Coleman? I might agree you might hold onto Weeger to land an upgrade on Coleman. But last I heard Calgary is trying to unload Lucic, and LW where Lucic plays is where Calgary is weakest. In any case it's a fair trade but pending on what Treliving is trying to upgrade will determine if the trade works or not


    LW is probably going to be
    Huberdueau
    Mangiapane/Toffoli(othet plays 1RW)
    Pelletier
    Lucic(if he stays)
    25 août 2022 à 20 h 18
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    Let's not pretend that until further notice, Formenton is rapidly gaining radioactivity. Nobody is trading anything of note for him right now.
    25 août 2022 à 21 h 10
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    Quoting: athrin
    easy no for OTT


    As an Ottawa fan this is a no brainer. Take it and run. We do lose a very good player with world class speed though.
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    25 août 2022 à 21 h 44
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Let's not pretend that until further notice, Formenton is rapidly gaining radioactivity. Nobody is trading anything of note for him right now.


    I mentioned this is the post.... This would all be based on the outcome of the trial and a contract being signed....
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    25 août 2022 à 21 h 56
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    Flames are looking to compete now so prospects don't have any value when were moving a player who by all accounts seems ready to sign an extension and help this season so this is a no from the Flames.
    25 août 2022 à 22 h 39
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    Quoting: Riddick19
    I mentioned this is the post.... This would all be based on the outcome of the trial and a contract being signed....


    Ah, so you did.
    26 août 2022 à 14 h 25
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    Quoting: athrin
    easy no for OTT


    I just looked at a bunch of proposals involving Ottawa and this one is actually the first one where Ottawa isn't getting bent over

    I would do it, Weegar is good and would be extended
    26 août 2022 à 15 h 38
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    I just looked at a bunch of proposals involving Ottawa and this one is actually the first one where Ottawa isn't getting bent over

    I would do it, Weegar is good and would be extended


    Weegar is overated
    26 août 2022 à 15 h 46
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    Quoting: Ansabch12
    Flames are looking to compete now so prospects don't have any value when were moving a player who by all accounts seems ready to sign an extension and help this season so this is a no from the Flames.


    Fair enough, until he actually signs however you don't know what his ask is, and if the Flames can even indulge it. You don't even know if he's going to be on your top pairing? Truthfully I'd prefer Ottawa chase Rasmus Andersson.... But he's in my mind Calgary's best defenseman who also happens to be a RD.... Geez even Tanev is solid and would look good with Kylington. Hence why I figure Ottawa and Calgary likely would discuss Weeger. Calgary is thin on the wings, and as Calgary has already proven they appreciate defensive depth and so they should. Thomson is a very high end prospect. The value for Weeger on a 1-yr deal is good in this trade. But 100% if Weeger re-signs then everything is off the table and Ottawa likely looks at an Andersson or Tanev instead.
    26 août 2022 à 21 h 51
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    Quoting: Riddick19
    Fair enough, until he actually signs however you don't know what his ask is, and if the Flames can even indulge it. You don't even know if he's going to be on your top pairing? Truthfully I'd prefer Ottawa chase Rasmus Andersson.... But he's in my mind Calgary's best defenseman who also happens to be a RD.... Geez even Tanev is solid and would look good with Kylington. Hence why I figure Ottawa and Calgary likely would discuss Weeger. Calgary is thin on the wings, and as Calgary has already proven they appreciate defensive depth and so they should. Thomson is a very high end prospect. The value for Weeger on a 1-yr deal is good in this trade. But 100% if Weeger re-signs then everything is off the table and Ottawa likely looks at an Andersson or Tanev instead.


    Thing is if the Flames were to even consider dealing one of Tanev or Andersson (assuming Weegar re-signs) it would most likely be for a winger like Batherson so I feel like any trade between the sens and flames would be off the table by that point.
    28 août 2022 à 19 h 32
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    Quoting: Ansabch12
    Thing is if the Flames were to even consider dealing one of Tanev or Andersson (assuming Weegar re-signs) it would most likely be for a winger like Batherson so I feel like any trade between the sens and flames would be off the table by that point.


    Yeah Batherson is on too good a contract to move, as he is basically a point per game player making less than $5M, hard to let those guys go. Will see what the seasons brings I guess
     
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