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Créé par: JSteff5656
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 23 août 2022
Publié: 23 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
12 500 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler (2 375 000 $ retained)
  2. Smith, Givani
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DET
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $69 187 500 $0 $200 000 $13 312 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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23 août 2022 à 3 h 48
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There's no way Detroit would agree to that.

Bert is worth way more than a cap dump and an AHL player and two 2nds even without retention and Smith thrown in.
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23 août 2022 à 6 h 15
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Horrible for Calgary. Bertuzzi is a rental and unvaxxed. Pelletier is one of the top prospects in the league. Ill take 7+ years of Pelletier and 2 on an ELC over 1 of Bert all day.

Flip the trade around, would Detroit trade Maata + Kasper/Cossa + 2 2nds for Weegar + Mackey + 4th. All this under the hypothetical that Detroit can't afford to resign Weegar?
23 août 2022 à 7 h 0
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Terrible for both both teams

Detroit: Detroit is not going to trade their best LW on the team.
Calgary: Why would they trade Pelletier. He’s one of the best prospects right now. You have to RS on Lucic if Detroit is going to take him.
23 août 2022 à 9 h 30
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Bertuzzi is unvaccinated and can't play in Canada.
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23 août 2022 à 9 h 40
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Bertuzzi is going to cost a lot more than that. Basically Bertuzzi for two 2nds.

It will cost you Pelletier to dump Lucic.
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23 août 2022 à 10 h 32
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Terrible trade for both teams.
23 août 2022 à 11 h 26
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Not good for either team. Pelletier is Calgary's top prospect and is basically NHL ready which they will need. Bertuzzi would be a great add but I don't think the pieces are right. Maybe Coronato, 2023 1st, 2025 second and Lucic for Bertuzzi half retained and Smith.
23 août 2022 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
There's no way Detroit would agree to that.

Bert is worth way more than a cap dump and an AHL player and two 2nds even without retention and Smith thrown in.


You have no idea what you're talking about thats two 2nds and the Flames best prospect thats NHL ready and most likely making the team meanwhile Bertuzzi is a known anti-vaxxer and in Canada that isn't gonna fly and on top of that I can't think of a worse person for a Canadian team to acquire as a rental, this is easily shut down by Calgary.
24 août 2022 à 1 h 44
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You have no idea what you're talking about thats two 2nds and the Flames best prospect thats NHL ready and most likely making the team meanwhile Bertuzzi is a known anti-vaxxer and in Canada that isn't gonna fly and on top of that I can't think of a worse person for a Canadian team to acquire as a rental, this is easily shut down by Calgary.


Bert will not be traded for less than a haul similar to what Mantha got. That was Vrána + a 1st + a 2nd.

You have absolutely no idea how Bert is valued in Detroit and making an offer as stupidly unrealistic as this only shows off your ignorance.

With retention and Smith on top we're talking at least three 1st round picks or you'll simply will be told to **** off.

Detroit is not a charity that exist only to supply players to you for next to nothing.
24 août 2022 à 14 h 57
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Bert will not be traded for less than a haul similar to what Mantha got. That was Vrána + a 1st + a 2nd.

You have absolutely no idea how Bert is valued in Detroit and making an offer as stupidly unrealistic as this only shows off your ignorance.

With retention and Smith on top we're talking at least three 1st round picks or you'll simply will be told to **** off.

Detroit is not a charity that exist only to supply players to you for next to nothing.



Thats such obvious stupid bias I dont even know what to say, you'd be hard pressed to get 3 first round picks for Patrick Kane or David Pastrnak, but you expect that for a guy whos coming off a career year where he still was under ppg and on top of that has absolutely zero value to a Canadian team because of his vaccination status so i'd say its more you thats showing off your ignorance.

Also Mantha got that return because he was signed to term for a solid cap hit, Bertuzzi is a pending UFA theres quite a huge gap in value there, obviously he isn't getting the kind of astronomical return you're expecting and is more in line with whats being offered here which itself is a huge overpay because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.
 
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