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Mikheyev is an awful signature for canucks

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 16 août 2022
Publié: 22 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Mikheyev is a 3rd liner, plays on PK. His best season is 34pts (he did play only 53 games) but still he is a very unproven player offensively, other than last years he never passed 25pts.

I'd say Mikheyev is like a Tanner Pearson 2.0 but more expensive.

Canucks already have good forward depht, with Kuzmenko, Hoglander and Podkolzin all having better offensive ceiling than Mikheyev, there isnt much room for him, especially with that contract!

Now canucks are in cap hell, with no better defense, but they got an overpaid 3rd line winger thats not any better than Pearson who will likely be pushed on the 4th line because of this signature.
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22 août 2022 à 10 h 3
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I wouldn't say he's awful, just slightly overpaid. He's definitely a better defensive and utility player than Pearson, but they are fairly equal offensively.
22 août 2022 à 10 h 3
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Yeah we all know about that, why today ?
22 août 2022 à 10 h 5
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He’s not awful, he’s just overpaid
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22 août 2022 à 10 h 20
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You’re underrating him quite significantly
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22 août 2022 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: Orango
I wouldn't say he's awful, just slightly overpaid. He's definitely a better defensive and utility player than Pearson, but they are fairly equal offensively.


Quoting: NR1
He’s not awful, he’s just overpaid


I didn't said the player is awful. I said that it's an awful signature for the team.
22 août 2022 à 10 h 59
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I didn't said the player is awful. I said that it's an awful signature for the team.


No take-backsies!
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22 août 2022 à 11 h 0
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No take-backsies!


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22 août 2022 à 11 h 4
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? He was on pace for 32 goals last year. Yes he didn’t get many assists but he was in a third line role. Most analytics have him as an option for a good top 6 player, and without him they don’t get Kuzmenko. The teams PK was awful and he’s an incredible penalty kill option. He adds more speed to the lineup which is something management wants and he can be a mentor for Podkolzin. The signing is fine
22 août 2022 à 11 h 37
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I like Mikheyev. But his contract is too high and for too much term. At his best yep he's a 5m player. But his productivity has big lulls and he's often a 2m guy. We'll see if can maintain his high paced game as he showed last year. But I wish Mik and the Canucks the best of luck. Hope they made a good signing.
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22 août 2022 à 11 h 39
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you can keep him now lmao
22 août 2022 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: Warpbox
? He was on pace for 32 goals last year. Yes he didn’t get many assists but he was in a third line role. Most analytics have him as an option for a good top 6 player, and without him they don’t get Kuzmenko. The teams PK was awful and he’s an incredible penalty kill option. He adds more speed to the lineup which is something management wants and he can be a mentor for Podkolzin. The signing is fine


Most analytics love his defensive play but are not confident in his ability to replicate his offensive numbers mostly because he jumped from 7% shooting to 14% yoy.

That said, he wasn't brought in to be an offensive star, if it works out that way, great, but he was brought in to help the PK and forecheck. He's essentially a premier Motte and they paid the price for him.

While I would of rather see them improve the defense with that money, they also needed to improve the PK and spped element of this roster too.
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22 août 2022 à 11 h 54
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Mikheyev is a premium middle six, PK specialist. Since he's coming in as a ufa he's going to be "overpaid" but he's the type of player that is already getting paid more than his pking counterparts due to his speed and goal scoring upside. The hope of course is that he builds off last year, but if he's getting 20-25 goals, with 40 or so (or even only 30) points plus killing penalties, then he would doing what he got paid to do.

If he gets 30 goals and 50+ points, that would be great but that's not what is expected of him probably.
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22 août 2022 à 11 h 58
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Most analytics love his defensive play but are not confident in his ability to replicate his offensive numbers mostly because he jumped from 7% shooting to 14% yoy.

That said, he wasn't brought in to be an offensive star, if it works out that way, great, but he was brought in to help the PK and forecheck. He's essentially a premier Motte and they paid the price for him.

While I would of rather see them improve the defense with that money, they also needed to improve the PK and spped element of this roster too.


I don’t expect him to have 30 goals, but if he can score 20-25 while being a threat on the PK I’m fine with the signing
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22 août 2022 à 13 h 5
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Most analytics love his defensive play but are not confident in his ability to replicate his offensive numbers mostly because he jumped from 7% shooting to 14% yoy.

That said, he wasn't brought in to be an offensive star, if it works out that way, great, but he was brought in to help the PK and forecheck. He's essentially a premier Motte and they paid the price for him.

While I would of rather see them improve the defense with that money, they also needed to improve the PK and spped element of this roster too.


I mean I've watched a lot of him over the past few years as a Leaf and I remember saying that if he could convert on 1 or 2 out of 10 scoring chances he'll be a top 6 threat. While I agree that the cap hit and term is a bit high without having consistently delivered, the amount of chances he creates with his speed has always been there. So if he's finally figured out how to finish I think he has a good chance at helping the Canucks offence and will no doubt improve their PK.
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22 août 2022 à 13 h 46
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I don’t expect him to have 30 goals, but if he can score 20-25 while being a threat on the PK I’m fine with the signing


I think 15-20 is more likely but it depends where he plays. I suspect he and Hirvat will play a lot at 5v5 which likely won't mean a lot of goals.
22 août 2022 à 14 h 10
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Mikheyev is a comparable to Byron's first 3-4 years with Montreal (2016-2019) except he's taller. Byron is a very fast forward, responsible defensively, good on PK, scoring between 30-40pts and having two 20+ goals seasons while playing on a bottom 6. With injuries over the last few years he became a cap dump, BUUUUT even before he signed that contract, before the injuries, he already was overpaid at 3m4.
 
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