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Get some Pionk rumors started

Créé par: ceeque84
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 18 août 2022
Publié: 18 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
3850 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
2850 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
    To any team with cap space willing to collect some picks for some cap dumps. Ryan is in last yr of contract so shouldnt be costly to move.
    ANA
    1. Foegele, Warren
    2. Ryan, Derek
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
    4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
    2.
    EDM
    1. Pionk, Neal
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. Yamamoto, Kailer
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
    Logo de EDM
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    Logo de EDM
    2024
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    2025
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de EDM
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    Logo de EDM
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $82 076 833 $896 000 $2 200 000 $423 167 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
    5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    750 000 $750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    762 500 $762 500 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1

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    18 août 2022 à 5 h 57
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    Jets pass because they don't what him for the same reason as EDM - zero defense.
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    18 août 2022 à 6 h 20
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    Quoting: betahuman
    Jets pass because they don't what him for the same reason as EDM - zero defense.


    if you watched the Oilers in the playoffs you would know thats not entirely true. And the main reason the Oilers would trade Barrie is because they have Bouchard.
    18 août 2022 à 6 h 52
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    Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
    Barrie is ass man


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws
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    18 août 2022 à 7 h 2
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    If jets did this, i would follow it up with trying to get Robertson out of Toronto and run out a line of Robertson/perfetti/Yamamoto. That would drive a team nuts if they could stay healthy.
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    18 août 2022 à 7 h 39
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    Paying to move Ryan's contract just to turn around and sign Gagner is a really odd move. I expect better from you.
    18 août 2022 à 8 h 5
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    Jets Decline… lousy trade for WPG
    18 août 2022 à 9 h 9
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    Quoting: betahuman
    Jets pass because they don't what him for the same reason as EDM - zero defense.


    I think mcdavid would argue against that after Pionks playoff performance against him lol.

    The dude can play good defense. He just had a bad year last year, like a lot of the jets lol c
    18 août 2022 à 10 h 4
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    Quoting: CD282
    Paying to move Ryan's contract just to turn around and sign Gagner is a really odd move. I expect better from you.


    Id actually just bury Ryan in the A tbh.
    18 août 2022 à 10 h 10
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    Quoting: ceeque84
    Id actually just bury Ryan in the A tbh.


    Ryan > Gagner.
    18 août 2022 à 10 h 25
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    Quoting: CD282
    Ryan > Gagner.


    Nah. Gags had a better yr than Ryan last season playing in all situations on a **** team. He is 2 yrs younger, and of course because... pure nostalgia... I think the main issue with Gagner in Edmonton is that some fans still think he should be putting up 20+ goals. Thats not at all what they would bring him back for. 4th line, who COULD move up IF needed because of injuries. Vet who loved playing in Edmonton and most importantly, would provide all of this for a minimum cap hit. Guys like Ryan & Janmark making $1.2mill to do what they do is such a waste. Holland has had a pretty great offseason, but handing Janmark $1.2 when they are in a situtation where pretty much every 100k counts, was just stupid. If he really wanted Janmark I'm sure he could have been had for a solid $300k-500k less, i highly doubt his agents phone was ringing off the hook in this cap strapped market.
    18 août 2022 à 10 h 40
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    Nah. Gags had a better yr than Ryan last season playing in all situations on a **** team. He is 2 yrs younger, and of course because... pure nostalgia... I think the main issue with Gagner in Edmonton is that some fans still think he should be putting up 20+ goals. Thats not at all what they would bring him back for. 4th line, who COULD move up IF needed because of injuries. Vet who loved playing in Edmonton and most importantly, would provide all of this for a minimum cap hit. Guys like Ryan & Janmark making $1.2mill to do what they do is such a waste. Holland has had a pretty great offseason, but handing Janmark $1.2 when they are in a situtation where pretty much every 100k counts, was just stupid. If he really wanted Janmark I'm sure he could have been had for a solid $300k-500k less, i highly doubt his agents phone was ringing off the hook in this cap strapped market.


    Last season was an outlier for Gagner though, you can't seriously expect him to repeat that next season. I mean, he hasn't scored 21 points at 5v5 since 16-17! If you look at the past 3 seasons you'll see that Ryan is the better player and that it's not particularly close.

    Ryan v Gagner

    Ryan v Gagner on ice
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    18 août 2022 à 10 h 44
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    While it's a nice try, the Jets can't afford to downgrade one of their 2 RD to Barrie. There's just no incentive for Winnipeg to do that.
    18 août 2022 à 11 h 10
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    While it's a nice try, the Jets can't afford to downgrade one of their 2 RD to Barrie. There's just no incentive for Winnipeg to do that.


    They can if they accept they need to blow it up and start a rebuild.
    18 août 2022 à 11 h 30
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    They can if they accept they need to blow it up and start a rebuild.


    There's still no incentive there for the Jets to do it though. Unless they're getting good value for Pionk if they decided to rebuild, they might as well just keep him
     
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