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Knight and Meier

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 16 août 2022
Publié: 16 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Florida needs defense (this one still needs work…maybe Daws instead?).

San Jose restocks cupboard (trade is from Sharks fan).
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
2950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 250 000 $
54 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
1800 000 $
65 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Knight, Spencer [Droits de RFA]
FLA
    Severson, Damon
    Graves, Ryan
    Blackwood, MacKenzie

    (at deadline, with retention and cap causality)
    2.
    NJD
    1. Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]
    SJS
    1. Bahl, Kevin
    2. Thompson, Tyce
    3. Walsh, Reilly
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
    5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
    Détails additionnels:
    Original Sharks fan trade
    Rachats de contrats
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    2025
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    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 2
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    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
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    C
    UFA - 4
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    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    C, AG
    RFA - 1
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    AG
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    C
    RFA - 1
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    AD
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
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    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
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    4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
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    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
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    918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
    DD
    RFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    800 000 $800 000 $
    AG
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    AD
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    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
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    16 août 2022 à 16 h 58
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    I'm not sure Florida is too keen on that
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    16 août 2022 à 16 h 59
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    Weak offers. If the devils are actually gonna pursue quality nhl talent, they need to make a quality offers back
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    16 août 2022 à 17 h 1
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    Florida laugh and blocks your number.

    Knight starts with Holtz and a 1st nothing less. Not Severson whose a pending UFA, Graves and Blacwood the trade is a joke.
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    16 août 2022 à 17 h 6
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    You really won’t give up that Severson for Knight trade will you
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    16 août 2022 à 17 h 11
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    SJ declines. Starts with Holtz or Mercer.
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    16 août 2022 à 17 h 13
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    needs more quality less quantity
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 13
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    I'm not sure Florida is too keen on that


    Quoting: LGTBL
    Florida laugh and blocks your number.

    Knight starts with Holtz and a 1st nothing less. Not Severson whose a pending UFA, Graves and Blacwood the trade is a joke.


    Trade is still in the works. Florida needs defense, cap help, and Knight is RFA next year (do you think Knight wants to wait around four more years? Burning his age 18-24 seasons as backup). I’m open to suggestions, but Holtz is probably not what they are looking for. We have two good dman to spare, their blueline has Carlsson, Staal, Del Zotto, Bitetto and Gudas. Got to be a fit here somewhere.
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 15
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    Quoting: Canesfan21_
    You really won’t give up that Severson for Knight trade will you


    Should I? I think it could be done in way that benefits both sides. We need goaltending, they need defense…they have goaltending to spare, we have defense to spare.

    How can it be improved?
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 16
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    Quality quality quality
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 17
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    Please just stop trading for knight. He wasn't available for Chychrun and he certainly won't be available for these guys...
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    16 août 2022 à 17 h 19
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    Quoting: Erkadurk347
    Weak offers. If the devils are actually gonna pursue quality nhl taldnt, they need to make a quality offers back


    Meier is an RFA winger with poison pill QO. They are getting a 1st and a few good prospects. This is more than Buchnevich, Reinhart, Fiala, Debrincat got.

    Knight offer may be a little thin, but fills a need on both sides. Open to suggestions on how to improve it.
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 20
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    SJ declines. Starts with Holtz or Mercer.


    This was a Sharks fan offer…I just cut and pasted it.
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 24
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    Quoting: VijayPatel11
    Please just stop trading for knight. He wasn't available for Chychrun and he certainly won't be available for these guys...


    If they did not do Knight plus two 1sts for one top-4 dman…that doesn’t say much about Knight for two top-4 dmen, does it?
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 26
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    This was a Sharks fan offer…I just cut and pasted it.


    It was a sh*t offer to being with. Picked out the lowest ask from a sharks fan too. All others say it isn’t enough quality.
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    16 août 2022 à 17 h 29
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    This was a Sharks fan offer…I just cut and pasted it.


    not really, you changed the 2023 1st to 2024 1st
    and the person who posted it originally wanted a 2023 1st and Holtz like many have been requesting
    also a devils fan in that same thread said that the trade would be bad for the sharks
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 32
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Meier is an RFA winger with poison pill QO. They are getting a 1st and a few good prospects. This is more than Buchnevich, Reinhart, Fiala, Debrincat got.

    Knight offer may be a little thin, but fills a need on both sides. Open to suggestions on how to improve it.


    Is it really more than what Debrincat got? He got 7OA, 39 OA, and a 3rd. This is a 1st 2 years from now that will almost definitely be mid round at worst, a 2nd 3 years from now, and some okay but not great prospects
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 42
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    Quoting: poeticentropy
    not really, you changed the 2023 1st to 2024 1st
    and the person who posted it originally wanted a 2023 1st and Holtz like many have been requesting
    also a devils fan in that same thread said that the trade would be bad for the sharks


    Fixed the years.

    Quoting: mv21227
    Is it really more than what Debrincat got? He got 7OA, 39 OA, and a 3rd. This is a 1st 2 years from now that will almost definitely be mid round at worst, a 2nd 3 years from now, and some okay but not great prospects


    Yes, I believe that it is. A #10-15 pick in 2023 is probably on par, if not better than #7 in 2022. The 2nd rounders wash. And Walsh, Bahl, Thompson are each worth more than a 3rd.
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 44
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    It was a sh*t offer to being with. Picked out the lowest ask from a sharks fan too. All others say it isn’t enough quality.


    It’s probably a bit above market to be honest. Wingers expecting new contracts aren’t really fetching premium returns in picks and prospects.
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 48
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Fixed the years.



    Yes, I believe that it is. A #10-15 pick in 2023 is probably on par, if not better than #7 in 2022. The 2nd rounders wash. And Walsh, Bahl, Thompson are each worth more than a 3rd.


    When I originally responded it was a 2024 1st. Now that it’s 2023 I’d say it’s at least pretty close, and probably more (although I think the Devils could be a surprise team this year)
    16 août 2022 à 17 h 48
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Meier is an RFA winger with poison pill QO. They are getting a 1st and a few good prospects. This is more than Buchnevich, Reinhart, Fiala, Debrincat got.

    Knight offer may be a little thin, but fills a need on both sides. Open to suggestions on how to improve it.


    I don’t think anyone is paying 10 mil to Meier so I doubt he asks for that. Whatever team he is on, he will get paid and a long term contract that is under 10 mil. Point per game players don’t just get traded for a first and some scraps. It doesn’t matter the market, elite players will call for elite value going back. If the sharks haven’t blocked ur number yet, good luck on getting a hold of the panthers. They are never returning ur call back
    16 août 2022 à 18 h 6
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Meier is an RFA winger with poison pill QO. They are getting a 1st and a few good prospects. This is more than Buchnevich, Reinhart, Fiala, Debrincat got.

    Knight offer may be a little thin, but fills a need on both sides. Open to suggestions on how to improve it.


    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    This was a Sharks fan offer…I just cut and pasted it.


    it was the very least i would accept to be fair my offer was Holts and a 1st or Mercer and a 1st.
    if Meier decided to stick it to us and not want to resign then this offer albeit underwhelming might be the one we’re forced to take.
    16 août 2022 à 18 h 11
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    Knight wont be dealt, he is the better goalie, i strongly feel Florida would prefer to retain 50% of Bobby and move him even if it took a pick or prospect to do so!!!
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    16 août 2022 à 18 h 47
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Fixed the years.



    Yes, I believe that it is. A #10-15 pick in 2023 is probably on par, if not better than #7 in 2022. The 2nd rounders wash. And Walsh, Bahl, Thompson are each worth more than a 3rd.


    There’s no convincing you of anything. Truth of it is you are getting a potential franchise goaltender and a dominant young power forward without giving up much at all.
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    17 août 2022 à 7 h 20
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    You want Knight? Give us Hughes. Top prospect for a top prospect
    17 août 2022 à 9 h 34
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    Quoting: RaZZe
    You want Knight? Give us Hughes. Top prospect for a top prospect


    No, afraid Hughes isn't on the table.
    But there are plenty of other options.


    Put together a package of....

    One of - Walsh, Bahl, Foote, Zetterlund, Gritsyuk, Mukhamadullin, Casey
    One of - Thompson, Edwards, Salminen, Okhotiuk, Clarke, Stillman
    One of - Severson, Graves
    One of - Daws, Schmid, Blackwood, Vanecek, Bernier
    One of - 2023 protected 1st, 2024 unprotected 1st

    Would be plenty worthwhile
     
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