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Créé par: JAKE6
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 août 2022
Publié: 15 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
when the time comes send down douglas to bring up knies
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RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
Transactions
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TOR
OTT
  1. Muzzin, Jake
Détails additionnels:
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4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
5.
TOR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi (750 000 $ retained)
PIT
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
the 3rd rounder goes to 3rd party team for 750k retention (arizona)
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Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 543 949 $212 500 $537 500 $956 051 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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2 037 500 $2 037 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
837 500 $837 500 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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15 août 2022 à 10 h 34
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No to the retention on Kap, but you can keep the 3rd and just swap straight up. Hextall loves Kappy though unfortunately.
15 août 2022 à 10 h 34
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Ducks don’t really need Sandin. Plus Comtois is bound for a bounce back season
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15 août 2022 à 10 h 37
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Imo, i keep Egval over Kap.
15 août 2022 à 10 h 38
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
No to the retention on Kap, but you can keep the 3rd and just swap straight up. Hextall loves Kappy though unfortunately.


arizona does the retaining.
15 août 2022 à 10 h 39
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Quoting: LosPatos
Ducks don’t really need Sandin. Plus Comtois is bound for a bounce back season


vakkanainen is in ur top 4 with 45 nhl games under his belt... dont say u dont need sandin
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15 août 2022 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: jake4leafs
arizona does the retaining.


Ah my bad. Again, I'd do it, but Hextall likes him enough that he doubled down on him for two years.
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15 août 2022 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: jake4leafs
vakkanainen is in ur top 4... dont say u dont need sandin


Ducks aren’t competing this year and have an amazing pipeline of LHD. So I will say it again. Ducks don’t need Sandin. If they’re gonna trade for a LHD it’ll be a veteran on a 1 or 2 year deal.

And Vaakanainen has been fine with Anaheim so far.
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15 août 2022 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: LosPatos
Ducks aren’t competing this year and have an amazing pipeline of LHD. So I will say it again. Ducks don’t need Sandin. If they’re gonna trade for a LHD it’ll be a veteran on a 1 or 2 year deal.

And Vaakanainen has been fine with Anaheim so far.


they signed vatrano and klingberg, thats not moves u make when u arent trying to compete
15 août 2022 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: LosPatos
Ducks don’t really need Sandin. Plus Comtois is bound for a bounce back season


leafs dont accept anyway
15 août 2022 à 10 h 54
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OTT has Chabot and Sanderson on LD, don't see them moving in another LD like Muzzin.
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15 août 2022 à 11 h 33
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When did Muzzin announce he's willing to waive his no movement? Also Muzzin is so bad that Leafs have to pay to move him, yet Larsson is suddenly a top pairing guy and costs two top prospects?
15 août 2022 à 12 h 20
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Niemela AND Hirvonen. what
15 août 2022 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: jake4leafs
they signed vatrano and klingberg, thats not moves u make when u arent trying to compete


Vatrano is depth scoring, Klingberg filled a hole at RD and got us over the cap floor, and is going to be flipped at the TDL unless we REALLY like him and he is willing to sign a reasonable contract. We Taylor Hall'd him.

So yes, @LosPatos is right, we don't need, nor particularly want, Sandin. We have Zellwegger and Mintyukov in the pipeline for offensive D, we have Benoit and Vaakainen for defensive D, and we still have Cam Fowler for 4 more seasons. We wouldn't pair Sandin with Drysdale, he needs a defensive focused partner. If Sandin was a RHD, we might consider this offer.

However, we are light at left wing, so why would we trade away a guy from our weakest depth chart position and acquire one too add to the deepest position we have? That makes zero sense for us.

We are not going to compete this year, if we somehow make the playoffs due to the pacific division being 10 ply, we get bounced in the first round in 5 games or less. Anyone who thinks the Ducks picked up Klingberg to go on a run this season is playing checkers while Verbeek is playing 3D chess.

Anaheim is a small market team, we don't have the luxury of being able to tank for multiple seasons like Toronto has in the past and still have enough money to survive the loss in ticket sales. We have to rebuild on the fly and keep the product on the ice entertaining even when we are doing poorly, or the team has a serious chance at bankruptcy.
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15 août 2022 à 15 h 0
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Kerfoot doesn't return a 2nd
15 août 2022 à 15 h 12
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Kerfoot doesn't return a 2nd


Just cuz Columbus gave bjorkstrand for free doesn’t mean kerfoot doesn’t have value. Tampa paid 2, first rounders with 2 prospects for a player who never hit 50 pts
15 août 2022 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Vatrano is depth scoring, Klingberg filled a hole at RD and got us over the cap floor, and is going to be flipped at the TDL unless we REALLY like him and he is willing to sign a reasonable contract. We Taylor Hall'd him.

So yes, LosPatos is right, we don't need, nor particularly want, Sandin. We have Zellwegger and Mintyukov in the pipeline for offensive D, we have Benoit and Vaakainen for defensive D, and we still have Cam Fowler for 4 more seasons. We wouldn't pair Sandin with Drysdale, he needs a defensive focused partner. If Sandin was a RHD, we might consider this offer.

However, we are light at left wing, so why would we trade away a guy from our weakest depth chart position and acquire one too add to the deepest position we have? That makes zero sense for us.

We are not going to compete this year, if we somehow make the playoffs due to the pacific division being 10 ply, we get bounced in the first round in 5 games or less. Anyone who thinks the Ducks picked up Klingberg to go on a run this season is playing checkers while Verbeek is playing 3D chess.

Anaheim is a small market team, we don't have the luxury of being able to tank for multiple seasons like Toronto has in the past and still have enough money to survive the loss in ticket sales. We have to rebuild on the fly and keep the product on the ice entertaining even when we are doing poorly, or the team has a serious chance at bankruptcy.


Great explanation with 0 insults or snarky comments. Thank you for being so respectful and honest without being rude
15 août 2022 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: jake4leafs
Just cuz Columbus gave bjorkstrand for free doesn’t mean kerfoot doesn’t have value. Tampa paid 2, first rounders with 2 prospects for a player who never hit 50 pts


Yes but they paid that price cause Brandon Hagel was making almost no money and they really had no incentive to trade him, obviously the price was insane but Kerfoot is the same kind of player except he makes 3.5 mil against the cap. Currently in the league cap space is king and thats why Bjorkstrand was traded for next to nothing, which is why Kerfoot isn't going to net you a 2nd rd pick, at best you could hope for is a 4th id say and thats being very generous.
16 août 2022 à 12 h 11
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Yes but they paid that price cause Brandon Hagel was making almost no money and they really had no incentive to trade him, obviously the price was insane but Kerfoot is the same kind of player except he makes 3.5 mil against the cap. Currently in the league cap space is king and thats why Bjorkstrand was traded for next to nothing, which is why Kerfoot isn't going to net you a 2nd rd pick, at best you could hope for is a 4th id say and thats being very generous.


he is owed 750k, hes worth way more than a 4th
16 août 2022 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: jake4leafs
he is owed 750k, hes worth way more than a 4th


That only matters to a team that has no intention of competing to reach the cap floor, but the Flames aren't that so real dollars owed doesn't matter its the cap hit that determines his value.
 
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