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Kane goes home Buffalo turns into Contender

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Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2022
Publié: 14 août 2022
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Obviously don’t take this serious would like to hear if this not only fair for all party’s involved but if it makes buffalo better long term; Or what trade you would’ve made instead
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3900 000 $
3900 000 $
2900 000 $
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
2950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 250 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
45 000 000 $
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BUF
  1. Kane, Patrick
  2. Murphy, Connor (1 400 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
2.
VAN
  1. Bjork, Anders
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
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BUF
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Samuelsson, Mattias
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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BUF
  1. Larkin, Dylan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DET)
DET
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. Savoie, Matthew
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
5.
BUF
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Comrie, Eric
  2. Sheahan, Riley
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
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C, AG
RFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
G
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
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687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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14 août 2022 à 16 h 43
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After every contract expires this year there is about 37.5mil to resign players that weren’t already.
14 août 2022 à 16 h 49
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Devils decline. Just play Sheahan in that spot
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14 août 2022 à 16 h 51
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Quoting: AceCane
After every contract expires this year there is about 37.5mil to resign players that weren’t already.


My pointers on this team.

1. We shouldnt pay for Kane, wait until next year and see if we can win him in FA. Like Giroux.
2. Hoglander trade feels like Quantity over Quality.
3. Buffalo won't do that Samuelsson trade. Samuelsson is definitely more valuable to us than Brannstrom. A lot better player.
4. Is probably not bad value considering Larkin is a UFA. I doubt Detroit does this trade, and I don't think buffalo should considering he most likely wouldn't resign with us.
5. Last trade is not good for the sabres. UPL isn't ready to start, and Craig Anderson isn't even NHL level anymore. I would do a Comrie - UPL pairing for the next couple years until Levi comes.
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As a Sabres fan, I’d hope we only consider the Pk88 trade if he signs an extension here. However, he wants to play for a contender again, so he’s not gonna accept a trade here right now.
Maybe he reconsiders if you’re Dylan Larkin trade happens,
but we’re giving up A LOT in that deal- and a few of the pieces i know we’d want to keep (namely Savoie & Asplund)
I know we’d have to give to get, but i think we’d try to move some other pieces besides those 2 guys.
*and Larkin would have to come with a long term extension for us to even consider giving up what it would take to get him

I don’t wanna nitpick your trades, but the Samuelsson for Brannstrom deal has ZERO chance of happening
Samuelsson was paired with Dahlin at the end of last season & looked good there. Those 2 will play together again on our top pair (to start at least) instead of rushing Power into that role.

To answer your overall question….
At the end of the day, adding Larkin & Kane look good on paper, but that’s not enough to make us “contenders”

The goaltending is still quite questionable,
and a majority of the team is still very young & needs more development
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Devils decline. Just play Sheahan in that spot


Was getting greedy towards the end lol figured hes disgruntled player and Devil fans have a lower value for him rn but wanted him for buffalo because he still has the talent
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14 août 2022 à 16 h 55
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Quoting: Buffalove
As a Sabres fan, I’d hope we only consider the Pk88 trade if he signs an extension here. However, he wants to play for a contender again, so he’s not gonna accept a trade here right now.
Maybe he reconsiders if you’re Dylan Larkin trade happens,
but we’re giving up A LOT in that deal- and a few of the pieces i know we’d want to keep (namely Savoie & Asplund)
I know we’d have to give to get, but i think we’d try to move some other pieces besides those 2 guys.

I don’t wanna nitpick your trades, but the Samuelsson for Brannstrom deal has ZERO chance of happening
Samuelsson was paired with Dahlin at the end of last season & looked good there. Those 2 will play together again on our top pair (to start at least) instead of rushing Power into that role.

To answer your overall question….
At the end of the day, adding Larkin & Kane look good on paper, but that’s not enough to make us “contenders”

The goaltending is still quite questionable,
and a majority of the team is still very young & needs more development


Figured Boquist still has the talemt to take a chance and didnt know about Anderson but rather would have Comrie as backup as well. Hoglander could be hit or miss he has the physicality and playmaking skill that would benefit Buffalo but this is me speculating as an outside fam who doesnt know about the players/prospects as much as a fan of that team. But figured the Kame/Larkin duo this year would help get them both to resign but it is high risk high reward
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Quoting: AceCane
Was getting greedy towards the end lol figured hes disgruntled player and Devil fans have a lower value for him rn but wanted him for buffalo because he still has the talent


Devils have no need to trade him and I don't see why Devils fans would want to
14 août 2022 à 16 h 57
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Buffalo isn't making the playoffs, So Kane isn't waiving to go there.

Detroit passes, Not even close for Dylan Larkin. If Detroit wanted Savoie they would've drafted him and there's no freaking way Larkin would commit long term with Buffalo. It's either Detroit or Columbus.

And the picks would need to be 2023 for Yzerman to move Larkin to Buffalo which there's no way in hell he'd waive for them. !st round pick that's 3 drafts away isn't going to cut it same with the 2nd that's 2 drafts away.
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14 août 2022 à 17 h 1
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Quoting: AceCane
Figured Boquist still has the talemt to take a chance and didnt know about Anderson but rather would have Comrie as backup as well. Hoglander could be hit or miss he has the physicality and playmaking skill that would benefit Buffalo but this is me speculating as an outside fam who doesnt know about the players/prospects as much as a fan of that team. But figured the Kame/Larkin duo this year would help get them both to resign but it is high risk high reward


Some interesting ideas
But i can’t see us willing to be that risky
Extensions would 100% have to be in place for us to even consider trading for Larkin &/or Kane

And our goaltending *might* work out, but it might not

I’d say that moves like Kane & Larkin don’t make a ton of sense until we have some more info on how our young goalie talent will develop, and that just takes time

Some interesting ideas for sure though
And not a bad job overall
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14 août 2022 à 17 h 9
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Quoting: Buffalove
As a Sabres fan, I’d hope we only consider the Pk88 trade if he signs an extension here. However, he wants to play for a contender again, so he’s not gonna accept a trade here right now.
Maybe he reconsiders if you’re Dylan Larkin trade happens,
but we’re giving up A LOT in that deal- and a few of the pieces i know we’d want to keep (namely Savoie & Asplund)
I know we’d have to give to get, but i think we’d try to move some other pieces besides those 2 guys.
*and Larkin would have to come with a long term extension for us to even consider giving up what it would take to get him

I don’t wanna nitpick your trades, but the Samuelsson for Brannstrom deal has ZERO chance of happening
Samuelsson was paired with Dahlin at the end of last season & looked good there. Those 2 will play together again on our top pair (to start at least) instead of rushing Power into that role.

To answer your overall question….
At the end of the day, adding Larkin & Kane look good on paper, but that’s not enough to make us “contenders”

The goaltending is still quite questionable,
and a majority of the team is still very young & needs more development


Ok but there is zero chance Detroit accepts that for Larkin.
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14 août 2022 à 17 h 17
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After every contract expires this year there is about 37.5mil to resign players that weren’t already.


Stick with your own team, That's a laugh offer for Dylan Larkin and not even close. Yzerman is the GM now not Holland. Yzerman blocks Adams number.
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Ok but there is zero chance Detroit accepts that for Larkin.


That’s literally his asking price lmao—- top 6 fwd/ prospect and 2 1st or top 6 fwd/2 good prospects/ 1st and another pick
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Stick with your own team, That's a laugh offer for Dylan Larkin and not even close. Yzerman is the GM now not Holland. Yzerman blocks Adams number.

You cam read the above reply too bud lmfaooo
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14 août 2022 à 17 h 25
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You cam read the above reply too bud lmfaooo


I can read, If you can't make a fair offer then don't post. And that's an laugh offer for Larkin Mittelstadt is a 3C Savoie Detroit didn't want Asplund is a joke and late picks doesn't cut it.
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That’s literally his asking price lmao—- top 6 fwd/ prospect and 2 1st or top 6 fwd/2 good prospects/ 1st and another pick


Ok but I can assure Detroit won't trade Larkin for that. Where did you get this asking price from? I can also assure you it didn't come from Yzerman.
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I can read, If you can't make a fair offer then don't post. And that's an laugh offer for Larkin Mittelstadt is a 3C Savoie Detroit didn't want Asplund is a joke and late picks doesn't cut it.


This is the brilliant s*t you had to rebuttal with lmfaoo buddy the price for Larkin on the market is known idk why your trying to reach so much rn lmaoo why dont you just only talk about tampa with the logic you bring to the table lmaoooooooo
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Ok but I can assure Detroit won't trade Larkin for that. Where did you get this asking price from? I can also assure you it didn't come from Yzerman.


You guys gonna have todo the work yourselves lol im not going to get scrutinized for things people have put forward
14 août 2022 à 17 h 54
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I wouldn't trade for Brännström. Especially trade away Samuelsson, he is someone BUF desperately need. Someone big strong and defensive.
Brännström is a bust in my eyes. Not good enough to be great
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You guys gonna have todo the work yourselves lol im not going to get scrutinized for things people have put forward


So you made it up and its total BS. The way it works is if you make a claim like this it's your responsibility to provide a source and until you so it means nothing! So provide a source or just stop making stuff up it's that simple!
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So you made it up and its total BS. The way it works is if you make a claim like this it's your responsibility to provide a source and until you so it means nothing! So provide a source or just stop making stuff up it's that simple!


Right instead of being hand fed things just do some googling yourself than fact check each source between themselves. Where theres a rumor theres some truth.
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Hawks decline that. If it was just for Kane we accept but not for Murphy too and you want 4 year retention which is crazy
14 août 2022 à 23 h 34
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Right instead of being hand fed things just do some googling yourself than fact check each source between themselves. Where theres a rumor theres some truth.


I beleive if you are sighting a source, it is not the person who is questioning it to spend time finding the source, but on the person who bring is up. If you can not sight a source, then presumably it is not real.

That being said I googled the price to obtain Larkin and came up with nothing, so unless you can sight a source, than it is bogus and will be just a rumored that has not substance.
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