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Most underrated players

Créé par: BCAPP
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2022
Publié: 14 août 2022
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Description
These players are for the most part NOT awesome or studs or something.

But what they are is thought generally of as worse than they are/not given the credit they deserve for various reasons
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1882 500 000 $83 196 667 $0 $0 $-696 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Is younger than people realize, And people unfairly think they should be further along in their development
1 000 000 $
Is overpaid, But is not as terrible as people make them out to be
1 000 000 $
Team sucks, And is kind of forgotten
1 000 000 $
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
Dahlin, Rasmus
6 000 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
Bailey, Josh
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
Provorov, Ivan
6 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
Robertson, Nicholas
796 667 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
Pearson, Tanner
3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
Eberle, Jordan
5 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
Nyquist, Gustav
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Coming off, One bad year
1 000 000 $
Was flawed earlier in their career, But has gotten better but nobody believes it
1 000 000 $
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
Fowler, Cam
6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Honestly is a stud, And doesnt get the love its bs
1 000 000 $
Is really really good, But just doesnt get the love
1 000 000 $
Good player on cap strapped team, So people act like hes terrible when hes solid
1 000 000 $
Logo de Predators de Nashville
Saros, Juuse
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
Scheifele, Mark
6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
Laine, Patrik
8 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Yes I know how bad scheifele is defensively, But hes 16th in points and 15th in goals over the last 6 years
1 000 000 $
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
Theodore, Shea
5 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
Vrána, Jakub
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 2

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14 août 2022 à 12 h 54
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I also feel that Luke Schenn and Ryan McDonagh are both overlooked quite a bit for how much they can bring to a team. Both are terrific penalty killers, heavy hitters and can play big minutes. McDonagh is a bit overpaid though. That's just me though.
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14 août 2022 à 13 h 5
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Vrana is very underated
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14 août 2022 à 13 h 6
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Good list! Saros was a Vezina finalist though and Girard isn’t on a cap strapped team that’s a false narrative. Personally I think Dahlin is a stud already.
14 août 2022 à 14 h 57
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Kerfoot is a defense only winger who can play C. Hes literally one of the worst offensive play drivers in the league.
Girard is an ok play driver who has much better results bc of the system he plays in and bc he plays with elite teammates. Girard is overrated and kerfoot us what he is, a 3.5m 3rd line shutdown guy.
14 août 2022 à 15 h 13
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I don't know how non-Pens fans feel about Brian Dumoulin, but he just came off of a down year, so naturally he's always sucked if you ask some people.
The simple fact is that Letang needs a defensively responsible partner to enable his offense safely. Dumo has been that for multiple seasons. He's been a top 4 defenseman for us since the back to back cups (heck, in the '17 playoffs Letang was out and Dumo led all Pens skaters in TOI). Letang has had Norris votes in the last 4 seasons, and Dumo was his partner for all 4 of them.
At this point of his career, he's a steady veteran presence, he's still a top 4 defenseman, and he's an important key to Pittsburgh's success.
14 août 2022 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: AK50
I also feel that Luke Schenn and Ryan McDonagh are both overlooked quite a bit for how much they can bring to a team. Both are terrific penalty killers, heavy hitters and can play big minutes. McDonagh is a bit overpaid though. That's just me though.


McDonough has slowed down. Schenn is what he is. He's okay, good defensive depth. Perhaps underrated by the broad population, but also overrated by those who want grit
14 août 2022 à 16 h 26
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Good list! Saros was a Vezina finalist though and Girard isn’t on a cap strapped team that’s a false narrative. Personally I think Dahlin is a stud already.


Sorry re cap strapped. Avalanche aren't cap strapped, but if they want a big contract then they'll have to move someone and people seem to be moving him like he's nothing. Boggling my mind
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14 août 2022 à 16 h 31
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Kerfoot is a defense only winger who can play C. Hes literally one of the worst offensive play drivers in the league.
Girard is an ok play driver who has much better results bc of the system he plays in and bc he plays with elite teammates. Girard is overrated and kerfoot us what he is, a 3.5m 3rd line shutdown guy.


Do you watch kerfoot at all? I wouldn't agree with that whatsoever. So when he was a 0.5 ppg+ player on Colorado playing with compher and Jost and Andrighetto, who was doing the play driving?

His scoring is fine for 2 w or 3 c, especially when you consider its essentially all at even strength.

In the 3 years since he got to Toronto he has 92 even strength points.

On the islanders that would tie him for third. Only Barzal (124) and Nelson (116) have more.
14 août 2022 à 16 h 32
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I don't know how non-Pens fans feel about Brian Dumoulin, but he just came off of a down year, so naturally he's always sucked if you ask some people.
The simple fact is that Letang needs a defensively responsible partner to enable his offense safely. Dumo has been that for multiple seasons. He's been a top 4 defenseman for us since the back to back cups (heck, in the '17 playoffs Letang was out and Dumo led all Pens skaters in TOI). Letang has had Norris votes in the last 4 seasons, and Dumo was his partner for all 4 of them.
At this point of his career, he's a steady veteran presence, he's still a top 4 defenseman, and he's an important key to Pittsburgh's success.


From your description he's so underrated I'm not really even aware of him enough. I just don't know much about him other than he seems a decent top 4 guy for a while. Lol
14 août 2022 à 17 h 28
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From your description he's so underrated I'm not really even aware of him enough. I just don't know much about him other than he seems a decent top 4 guy for a while. Lol


This isn't an original idea of mine, but for good shutdown defensemen, the less you hear about them, the better. Guys like that you hear the most about when they've made a mistake. Guys like Dumoulin, Seiganthaler, Brodin, are good shutdown guys. How often when listening to a broadcast do you hear their names?
Good defensive play isn't flashy or exciting, but it's super important.
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14 août 2022 à 17 h 35
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This isn't an original idea of mine, but for good shutdown defensemen, the less you hear about them, the better. Guys like that you hear the most about when they've made a mistake. Guys like Dumoulin, Seiganthaler, Brodin, are good shutdown guys. How often when listening to a broadcast do you hear their names?
Good defensive play isn't flashy or exciting, but it's super important.


The ones you don't hear about are the ones who are good defensively without being overly physical. Everyone here's about Gudas and the like.

It's a good point you raise.
14 août 2022 à 21 h 25
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Do you watch kerfoot at all? I wouldn't agree with that whatsoever. So when he was a 0.5 ppg+ player on Colorado playing with compher and Jost and Andrighetto, who was doing the play driving?

His scoring is fine for 2 w or 3 c, especially when you consider its essentially all at even strength.

In the 3 years since he got to Toronto he has 92 even strength points.

On the islanders that would tie him for third. Only Barzal (124) and Nelson (116) have more.





Points arent everything. Im sorry you dont agree with that whatsoever but unfortunately thats the reality.
 
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