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17 août 2022 à 19 h 54
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Technically he wasn't. he was just below PPG. So therefore it was Factually correct. Also I was just talking about last year anyway.

Also I said analytically wasn't nessarlily my opinion. But did Petey kill penalties in his rookie and sophomore season when he was 21? Genuinely not sure but he didn't have any SHP so he might not have played PK.


Okay, then consider the scoring pace he was at in the 2nd half of last season. No reason to believe he can't sustain something similar to that. No, Petey didn't kill penalties in his first two seasons, but he's taken that step in his game last season, Hughes didn't though
17 août 2022 à 20 h 11
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Quoting: gary_gobbler
This is a bad take my friend. I'm not a NJ or a nucks fan but Hughes is gonna be an elite center, his ceiling is much higher then peteys. No shade against Pettersson, great defensively but this isn't close, and it won't get any closer then it is now.


Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Hate to break this to you, but Pettersson is also very small in weight and injury prone.


Doug Gilmour was small but not softer than a baby’s behind like Hughes. Pettersson has played a full NHL season and only had one season with significant time missed. Why are you people so obsessed with this Hughes kid?
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17 août 2022 à 20 h 12
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This is a bad take my friend. I'm not a NJ or a nucks fan but Hughes is gonna be an elite center, his ceiling is much higher then peteys. No shade against Pettersson, great defensively but this isn't close, and it won't get any closer then it is now.


His ceiling is equal to Zegras. He’s good but the overrating of the kid on here has basically made me root against him.
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17 août 2022 à 20 h 20
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Talk about living under a rock


He's a solid first line player but he's far from the messiah that Canucks fans portray him as.

Giving the edge to Hughes here, sorry you disagree.
17 août 2022 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: MikeKeenanHatesMe
Pettersson has played a full NHL season and only had one season with significant time missed.

Same can be said for Hughes

Have you ever watched Hughes play hockey?
17 août 2022 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
He's not injury prone, just had some rotten luck last season


Same with Hughes. What are these one sided arguments
17 août 2022 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: Devil
Same with Hughes. What are these one sided arguments


That makes them even then
17 août 2022 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: mondo
He's a solid first line player but he's far from the messiah that Canucks fans portray him as.

Giving the edge to Hughes here, sorry you disagree.


Too early to write him off like that, he's not even in his prime yet
17 août 2022 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Too early to write him off like that, he's not even in his prime yet


Not sure what I said made you believe I'm writing him off.
17 août 2022 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: mondo
Not sure what I said made you believe I'm writing him off.


Calling him overrated made your tone sound pretty definitive
17 août 2022 à 20 h 32
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Calling him overrated made your tone sound pretty definitive


Overrated doesn't mean bad.
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17 août 2022 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: mondo
Overrated doesn't mean bad.


Like I said, your tone still had negative connotations, and I was telling you that you aren't observing Pettersson's outlook closely enough that makes it fair to call him overrated
17 août 2022 à 20 h 38
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Like I said, your tone still had negative connotations, and I was telling you that you aren't observing Pettersson's outlook closely enough that makes it fair to call him overrated


Personally, I think I'm entitled to my opinion and I doubt you're going to change it. No use in getting upset over what other people think.
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17 août 2022 à 20 h 40
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Quoting: mondo
Personally, I think I'm entitled to my opinion and I doubt you're going to change it. No use in getting upset over what other people think.


Well I think you're opinion reaps of ignorance, and I don't understand why you bother to be carelessly dismissive
17 août 2022 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Calling him overrated made your tone sound pretty definitive


I guess no one is allowed to say anything bad about the Canucks
17 août 2022 à 21 h 3
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Quoting: Devil
I guess no one is allowed to say anything bad about the Canucks


It's not exclusive to the Canucks, I just don't like hearing takes that don't have a lot of thought put into them
17 août 2022 à 21 h 41
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Well I think you're opinion reaps of ignorance, and I don't understand why you bother to be carelessly dismissive


You seem to fine with people being dismissive about Hughes but get upset when people prefer him over Pettersson. You've also done nothing to actually get me to change my opinion.

Not sure how having a slight preference to a player over another makes me carelessly dismissive, or why you're so adamant about this. Both are fine players but neither play for a team I follow so I'm likely to put as much thought into my opinion as you put into these polls.
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17 août 2022 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: MikeKeenanHatesMe
His ceiling is equal to Zegras. He’s good but the overrating of the kid on here has basically made me root against him.


Not equal to zegras. He's better then zegras.
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17 août 2022 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
It's not exclusive to the Canucks, I just don't like hearing takes that don't have a lot of thought put into them


Me neither

Can you provide evidence at why Pettersson is better defensively than Hughes
17 août 2022 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: mondo
You seem to fine with people being dismissive about Hughes but get upset when people prefer him over Pettersson. You've also done nothing to actually get me to change my opinion.

Not sure how having a slight preference to a player over another makes me carelessly dismissive, or why you're so adamant about this. Both are fine players but neither play for a team I follow so I'm likely to put as much thought into my opinion as you put into these polls.


Fine, whatever, but I don't know where you're getting the impression that I'm okay with people being dismissive of Hughes. If anything, I think he gets somewhat overrated by capfriendly users, where as I can't say the same about their attitudes towards Pettersson, probably because he wasn't at the top of his game for the first half of last season
17 août 2022 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: Devil
Me neither

Can you provide evidence at why Pettersson is better defensively than Hughes


He kills penalties
17 août 2022 à 22 h 1
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
He kills penalties


That doesn’t mean he’s better defensively wtf

Give me concrete evidence. Stats, analytics, etc
17 août 2022 à 22 h 2
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Quoting: Devil
That doesn’t mean he’s better defensively wtf

Give me concrete evidence. Stats, analytics, etc


Yeah it does
17 août 2022 à 22 h 6
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Yeah it does


Give me stats, analytics to back it up

I just don't like hearing takes that don't have a lot of thought put into them
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17 août 2022 à 22 h 7
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Quoting: Devil
Give me stats, analytics to back it up

I just don't like hearing takes that don't have a lot of thought put into them


Dude, being able to kill penalties is a very definitive testament to a players defensive ability, that shouldn't be hard to understand
 
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