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Natural disasters change of scenery trade

Créé par: Anus_McLeod
Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 11 août 2022
Publié: 11 août 2022
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The motivation for Colorado would be getting a guy that is still waivers exempt and has more upside. Carolina would get a player that can slot in right away and has a higher floor.

Honestly, not sure it makes sense for Carolina. It does for Colorado (imo) due to the waivers aspect and the seeming lack of interest in Kaut from the organization. Regardless, figured I'd throw it out there.
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11 août 2022 à 10 h 34
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I mean, Canes definitely accept since Bokk as it stands is a bust. Kaut at least still has some potential to make the NHL, but I doubt it. It’s really a wash for both sides, so I doubt either team would say no.
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Does Bokk have more upside? He feels and seems like a version, arguably a downgrade of Kaut. (Kaut is safer bc we know he is solid defensive and can be a in a bottom 6 role/PK somewhere in the NHL)

They passed on Bokk to select Kaut in the same draft. Im for the idea of moving kaut in a prospect trade, but IMO they should target a Dman to swap kaut for.
11 août 2022 à 10 h 36
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Thought it was going to be Bowers. Lol.
11 août 2022 à 10 h 38
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Does Bokk have more upside? He feels and seems like a version, arguably a downgrade of Kaut.

They passed on Bokk to select Kaut in the same draft. Im for the idea of moving kaut in a prospect trade, but IMO they should target a Dman to swap kaut for.


The upside is dwindling for sure. Could be considered a hail Mary I guess. Most likely results in nothing, but they give up nothing (Kaut wasn't even a black ace).
11 août 2022 à 10 h 40
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The upside is dwindling for sure. Could be considered a hail Mary I guess. Most likely results in nothing, but they give up nothing (Kaut wasn't even a black ace).


kaut at the very least can be a PK/bottom 6 defensive foward somewhere in the league. There is safety there. Bokk to me seems like a very high risk hail mary shot bc he is know for his soft hands and "offensive" ability. His last few seasons at the pro level really havent shown that flair that made him a 1st round pick.

If he cant score in the AHL or other pro levels as a high rate, hard to imagine him translating that to the pro level.
11 août 2022 à 10 h 43
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kaut at the very least can be a PK/bottom 6 defensive foward somewhere in the league. There is safety there. Bokk to me seems like a very high risk hail mary shot bc he is know for his soft hands and "offensive" ability. His last few seasons at the pro level really havent shown that flair that made him a 1st round pick.

If he cant score in the AHL or other pro levels as a high rate, hard to imagine him translating that to the pro level.


He was always considered a long-term project. That time is obviously running out, but at least you get part of a year to develop him in the AHL (or showcase him for trade). Idk what you do with Kaut. He could very well be claimed I'd they try to send him down.
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Canes probably say yes. Bokk seems to have flamed out which is unfortunate. Maybe another change of scenery will make something click but he just seems to struggle with the NA game.

I’m not super high on Kaut but not bad AHL depth who can fill a bottom 6 role in a pinch for cheap
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He was always considered a long-term project. That time is obviously running out, but at least you get part of a year to develop him in the AHL (or showcase him for trade). Idk what you do with Kaut. He could very well be claimed I'd they try to send him down.


I think the idea of moving him for a waiver excempt prospect makes sense. But target a Dman or at least a prospect that isnt committed to overseas like Bokk. You wont get any value of him there, Kaut if in the AHL, you have that mechanism to call him up if needed bc of injuries etc, that is assuming he doesnt steal a 13th roster spot for the fwds

I wonder about a D prospect like Ville Heinola in winnipeg. He is in the same kaut window. Keeps on playing in the AHL, doesnt seem like there is any rooom for him at the NHL level. Hes in no mans land in the org.
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I think the idea of moving him for a waiver excempt prospect makes sense. But target a Dman or at least a prospect that isnt committed to overseas like Bokk. You wont get any value of him there, Kaut if in the AHL, you have that mechanism to call him up if needed bc of injuries etc, that is assuming he doesnt steal a 13th roster spot for the fwds

I wonder about a D prospect like Ville Heinola in winnipeg. He is in the same kaut window. Keeps on playing in the AHL, doesnt seem like there is any rooom for him at the NHL level. Hes in no mans land in the org.


I thought about Heinola but I think he's more valuable than Kaut. He also has two more years of waivers exemption, which is likely part of the reason they're content to take their time with him. I would do that in a heartbeat if Winnipeg would though.

With Bokk, my understanding was that he was on loan and should be back in the AHL this year. If not, it's definitely a negative that I didn't consider.
11 août 2022 à 13 h 51
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I thought about Heinola but I think he's more valuable than Kaut. He also has two more years of waivers exemption, which is likely part of the reason they're content to take their time with him. I would do that in a heartbeat if Winnipeg would though.

With Bokk, my understanding was that he was on loan and should be back in the AHL this year. If not, it's definitely a negative that I didn't consider.


I could be wrong but I think bokk is signed over seas. Just glanced at his Wikipedia and that was the claim but not the source yo confirm that

I doubt heinola is available but just the first d prospect just comes to mind that fits that kaut no man’s land of ahl to nhl caliber

Brannstrom in Ottawa is another guy I wonder about bc I think his stock is low and there is a ton of young dmen in ottawas system coming up looking for spots
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I could be wrong but I think bokk is signed over seas. Just glanced at his Wikipedia and that was the claim but not the source yo confirm that

I doubt heinola is available but just the first d prospect just comes to mind that fits that kaut no man’s land of ahl to nhl caliber

Brannstrom in Ottawa is another guy I wonder about bc I think his stock is low and there is a ton of young dmen in ottawas system coming up looking for spots


I don't see where Brannstrom fits. He's no longer exempt and needs playing time. He won't get that in Colorado.
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I don't see where Brannstrom fits. He's no longer exempt and needs playing time. He won't get that in Colorado.


Just swapping the same propoblem but within positions. I would take a shot on a Brannstrom type as the 7th dman working his way into the line up over Jack Johnson again. Nothing against JJ, but take a shot on youth working his way into the line up is more appealing than another vet

Injuries happen, EJ probably wont have another fully healthy season.
 
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