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barzal because why not

Créé par: cbjthrowaway
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2022
Publié: 10 août 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Barzal, Mathew
Détails additionnels:
extended $9.5x8
NYI
  1. Chinakhov, Yegor
  2. Roslovic, Jack
  3. Ceulemans, Corson [Liste de réserve]
  4. 2023 1e round pick (CBJ)
  5. 2024 1e round pick (CBJ)
  6. 2024 2e round pick (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
protection on 2023 pick (slides to 2025 if it ends up top five); 2024 2nd is conditional on that happening
2.
CBJ
    future considerations
    DET
    1. Nyquist, Gustav (2 750 000 $ retained)
    2. 2023 4e round pick (CBJ)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Alexander Wennberg: 441 667 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Gustav Nyquist: 2 750 000 $ (50%)
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    2024
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $81 295 833 $0 $2 200 000 $1 204 167 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Gaudreau, Johnny
    9 750 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Barzal, Mathew
    7 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Laine, Patrik
    8 700 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
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    Johnson, Kent
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    Jenner, Boone
    3 750 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Voracek, Jakub
    8 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
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    Texier, Alexandre
    1 525 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    RFA - 1
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    Sillinger, Cole
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
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    Marchenko, Kirill
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
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    Robinson, Eric
    1 600 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
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    Kuraly, Sean
    2 500 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Danforth, Justin
    975 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Werenski, Zachary
    9 583 333 $
    DG
    UFA - 6
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    Gudbranson, Erik
    4 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Merzlikins, Elvis
    5 400 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Gavrikov, Vladislav
    2 800 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    Boqvist, Adam
    2 600 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
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    Korpisalo, Joonas
    1 300 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Bean, Jake
    2 333 333 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
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    Peeke, Andrew
    787 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Olivier, Mathieu
    750 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    Blankenburg, Nick
    825 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de CBJ
    Bemström, Emil
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2

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    10 août à 14 h 23
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    Way too much for Barzal. Not to mention it would put the jackets in cap hell
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    10 août à 14 h 23
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    Switch Chinakhov for Sillinger and remove 1 1st
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    10 août à 14 h 27
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    Voracek, not Gus, would need to be moved out since we won't have enough for Barzal's 10 mil QO next off season and need Voracek's cap hit off the books to make that happen.
    10 août à 14 h 27
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    Quoting: csick
    Switch Chinakhov for Sillinger and remove 1 1st


    I'm not saying anyone is 'untouchable' in a Barzal trade (assuming he signs an extension as part of it) but IMO Sillinger is the piece on the roster that would best fit a 2C role behind Barzal long-term. I'd sooner swap in one of our 2022 picks at defense + adjust picks accordingly than include Sillinger.

    Quoting: SK101
    Way too much for Barzal. Not to mention it would put the jackets in cap hell


    Wouldn't be in cap hell this year.

    After this year, the cap would go up, they'd get the rest of Gus's deal off their books, could move Voracek (with or without retention) to free up another $4m, will be freeing up another half mil or so by swapping Korpi for Tarasov, and could buy Bean out. Plenty of space to operate there.

    I'd also argue that solidifying the 1C spot long-term would be worth losing significant futures as he'll be in his prime when the new core players get into theirs.
    10 août à 14 h 29
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    Quoting: csick
    Switch Chinakhov for Sillinger and remove 1 1st


    Sillinger is untouchable. Not sure they trade him one for one for Barzal. Jarmo sees him as a 1C of the future. He’s six years younger than Barzal and still has two year left on his ELC which will help with the jackets cap situation
    10 août à 14 h 32
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    The isles are trading Barzal and his QO is 8.4 not 10.
    10 août à 14 h 33
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    Quoting: csick
    Switch Chinakhov for Sillinger and remove 1 1st


    That would make zero sense for the jackets. That is an extreme overpayment. Plus screws the capspace for the future. We need high end elc contracts like sillinger to compete. Barzel would be amazing but not at the cost of 5 first round picks.
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    10 août à 14 h 36
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    Quoting: SK101
    Sillinger is untouchable. Not sure they trade him one for one for Barzal. Jarmo sees him as a 1C of the future. He’s six years younger than Barzal and still has two year left on his ELC which will help with the jackets cap situation


    I really hope they don’t bank on silly being a 1c, his skill set is better suited for a 2c role unless he can pot 35- 40 goals consistently. He doesn’t have the high end game breaking speed that a 1c needs. IMO I love him as a player and his potential but 1c is pushing it.
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    10 août à 14 h 39
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    Quoting: The_Cannon
    I really hope they don’t bank on silly being a 1c, his skill set is better suited for a 2c role unless he can pot 35- 40 goals consistently. He doesn’t have the high end game breaking speed that a 1c needs. IMO I love him as a player and his potential but 1c is pushing it.


    I agree he could be a high end 2C. I think the importance of a 1C for the jackets is overstated. With elite playmakers like gaudreau and voracek you just need a solid center to win draws, play D, and chip in some goals. Kent Johnson also fits the prototype of an elite playmaker and should be ready for top 6 minutes by the time voracek leaves
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    10 août à 14 h 45
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    Quoting: SK101
    I agree he could be a high end 2C. I think the importance of a 1C for the jackets is overstated. With elite playmakers like gaudreau and voracek you just need a solid center to win draws, play D, and chip in some goals. Kent Johnson also fits the prototype of an elite playmaker and should be ready for top 6 minutes by the time voracek leaves


    Very true and agree with all that you said.
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    10 août à 14 h 46
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    Why not? NY probably isn’t trading him lol.

    In all seriousness I’ve seen way worse on here. I would say that you didn’t offer a good enough prospect and the two firsts that are going to NY will be mid to late firsts. For now id hold onto Barzal. You can probably build a good team around Barzal, Dobson and Sorokin.
    10 août à 15 h 1
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    laugh laugh Zero chance in hell, Lou would trade Matt Barzal within the division to Columbus. And good luck not being in cap hell in a few years.
    10 août à 15 h 57
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    Jesus. Who do you think is running the Blue Jackets...Stan Bowman?
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    10 août à 15 h 59
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    no need to retain salary on Nyquist. Instead up the compensation pick to a 2nd. A 4th isn't worth Nyquist taking a roster spot away from Berggren or Veleno. But another 2nd. Sure.
    10 août à 16 h 16
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    I'd offer Roslovic, Mateychuk, Nyquist 50% retained, 2023 1st top 5 protected and a 2024 2nd. Barzal certainly has potential, but it's also been 5 years since his point per game season. I don't think he's worth the four 1sts, a 2nd and Roslovic like you're proposing.
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    13 août à 20 h 8
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    Jarmo is going to continue building via draft. Barzal is good but the Jackets are not going to screw their cap up. Gaudreau signing, although very much needed, is a reminder that blossoming teams like Columbus need to be cap savvy and stick to developing youngsters and allowing the ELC years to help keep the cap low. Couple of years and the Jackets could be a very dangerous team to deal with.
     
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