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How to Finally Win

Créé par: dzad96
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2022
Publié: 5 août 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Get rid of the losers and their soft losing mindset. Just give this team the cup now, who's beating them?

Added 5 stanley cup champions and a stud goalie to a roster of losers and Matthews. EASY
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UFAANSCAP HIT
Kadri, Nazem66 666 666 $
Kessel, Phil12 500 000 $
Boyle, Brian1750 000 $
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  1. Doughty, Drew
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  1. Tavares, John
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  1. Murray, Matt
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  1. Gibson, John
  2. Terry, Troy
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  1. Marner, Mitchell
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  1. Wilson, Tom
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  1. Nylander, William
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Bunting, Michael
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5 août à 15 h 9
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That team is so much worse then they were before
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Quoting: Warpbox
That team is so much worse then they were before


Bahahahahahahahahahaha.

Kadri > Tavares
Gibson> Murray (By hundreds of miles, not even close)
Doughty + Terry > Marner
Kessel + Wilson> Nylander

You can't be serious. What part of this team is worse? Too tough for you? Not enough skill? This is what a playoff team looks like.
5 août à 15 h 12
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Wilson’s perceived value imo is higher than Nylander. Leafs would need to add. Both teams more than likely pass
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Wilson’s perceived value imo is higher than Nylander. Leafs would need to add. Both teams more than likely pass


Agreed. didn't put a whole lot of thought into details other than some kind of Wilson for Nylander swap. Just trying to make a soft weak team tougher, thought that would be a good place to start.
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Bahahahahahahahahahaha.

Kadri > Tavares
Gibson> Murray (By hundreds of miles, not even close)
Doughty + Terry > Marner
Kessel + Wilson> Nylander

You can't be serious. What part of this team is worse? Too tough for you? Not enough skill? This is what a playoff team looks like.


“ Doughty + Terry > Marner” this isn’t true
“ Gibson> Murray (By hundreds of miles, not even close)”. Also they are a lot closer than you want to believe. Gibson has been very very average. Not to mention Murray has cups I would say Gibson isn’t a massive upgrade. Maybe markstrom or someone like that but Gibson hasn’t been elite in years
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solid bait
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2
“ Doughty + Terry > Marner” this isn’t true
“ Gibson> Murray (By hundreds of miles, not even close)”. Also they are a lot closer than you want to believe. Gibson has been very very average. Not to mention Murray has cups I would say Gibson isn’t a massive upgrade. Maybe markstrom or someone like that but Gibson hasn’t been elite in years


Gibson has been on bad teams.
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the funniest part of this is the "get rid of players with a loser mindset" and you traded for Gibson and Doughty, two players who tons of people around here have continually said "they were bad because they were frustrated their teams were bad so they didnt try" in doughty and gibson, which is the biggest loser mindset there is.
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Quoting: dzad96
Bahahahahahahahahahaha.

Kadri > Tavares
Gibson> Murray (By hundreds of miles, not even close)
Doughty + Terry > Marner
Kessel + Wilson> Nylander

You can't be serious. What part of this team is worse? Too tough for you? Not enough skill? This is what a playoff team looks like.


Quoting: DogDayCaps2
“ Doughty + Terry > Marner” this isn’t true
“ Gibson> Murray (By hundreds of miles, not even close)”. Also they are a lot closer than you want to believe. Gibson has been very very average. Not to mention Murray has cups I would say Gibson isn’t a massive upgrade. Maybe markstrom or someone like that but Gibson hasn’t been elite in years


Doughty hasn't played meaningful hockey in half a decade
Gibson and Terry don't even know what winning looks like
The Nylander/Wilson nonsense has been beat to death
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the funniest part of this is the "get rid of players with a loser mindset" and you traded for Gibson and Doughty, two players who tons of people around here have continually said "they were bad because they were frustrated their teams were bad so they didnt try" in doughty and gibson, which is the biggest loser mindset there is.


Are you talking about two time stanley cup champion, two time olympic gold medalist, world cup champion, 2 time world championship champion, memorial cup champion, world junior gold medalist, Drew Doughty? Yeah, what a loser and losing mindset he has.
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Quoting: Boomer125
Doughty hasn't played meaningful hockey in half a decade
Gibson and Terry don't even know what winning looks like
The Nylander/Wilson nonsense has been beat to death


ok boomer
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Are you talking about two time stanley cup champion, two time olympic gold medalist, world cup champion, 2 time world championship champion, memorial cup champion, world junior gold medalist, Drew Doughty? Yeah, what a loser and losing mindset he has.


im talking about actual things that kings fans and ducks fans used as excuses for why their 'elite' players have been garbage for years. You wanna dispute it, ask them. If these players did give up on their teams, they have a massive whiny baby loser mind set.
As far as the players go, Gibson has been terrible for over 3 years now, worse than Murray by a looooong shot over that time. He's terrible. Doughty had been bad for about as long before a bit of a bounce back last season, and betting on him to be the guy he was last year instead of the massive decline he showed before when he turns 33 in december and has 5 years left (2 more than tavares) would be terribly dumb and these trades are hilariously bad for the Leafs.
But then this is 100% a troll thread, so nice try champ
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Doughty hasn't played meaningful hockey in half a decade
Gibson and Terry don't even know what winning looks like
The Nylander/Wilson nonsense has been beat to death


Doughty just had a pretty great season before getting injured.

I get that Doughty's contract isn't the greatest thing in the world, but maybe just peak at someone's stats before you crap all over them.
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im talking about actual things that kings fans and ducks fans used as excuses for why their 'elite' players have been garbage for years. You wanna dispute it, ask them. If these players did give up on their teams, they have a massive whiny baby loser mind set.
As far as the players go, Gibson has been terrible for over 3 years now, worse than Murray by a looooong shot over that time. He's terrible. Doughty had been bad for about as long before a bit of a bounce back last season, and betting on him to be the guy he was last year instead of the massive decline he showed before when he turns 33 in december and has 5 years left (2 more than tavares) would be terribly dumb and these trades are hilariously bad for the Leafs.
But then this is 100% a troll thread, so nice try champ


I mean most players regress during a rebuild, Doughty's numbers were actually good last season.

As for loser's mindsets, these "elite players" have won at almost every level and they were a big driving factor behind those wins. Which is why they earned that moniker.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
im talking about actual things that kings fans and ducks fans used as excuses for why their 'elite' players have been garbage for years. You wanna dispute it, ask them. If these players did give up on their teams, they have a massive whiny baby loser mind set.
As far as the players go, Gibson has been terrible for over 3 years now, worse than Murray by a looooong shot over that time. He's terrible. Doughty had been bad for about as long before a bit of a bounce back last season, and betting on him to be the guy he was last year instead of the massive decline he showed before when he turns 33 in december and has 5 years left (2 more than tavares) would be terribly dumb and these trades are hilariously bad for the Leafs.
But then this is 100% a troll thread, so nice try champ


Nobody is trolling this is legit. I turned the Leafs around from a 7th straight (SEVEN LOL) first round exit to a cup champion. You should be lauding over this.
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Nobody is trolling this is legit. I turned the Leafs around from a 7th straight (SEVEN LOL) first round exit to a cup champion. You should be lauding over this.


yeah, responding like that just confirms your trolling. You're really really bad at this.
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I mean most players regress during a rebuild, Doughty's numbers were actually good last season.

As for loser's mindsets, these "elite players" have won at almost every level and they were a big driving factor behind those wins. Which is why they earned that moniker.


like i said, doughty had a bounce back year last season, it doesnt mean he is good going forward. And again, my point was that Kings fans were using the fact that he was on a bad underperforming team as some sort of excuse for him being bad and that's why he mailed it in or whatever, instead of, you know, just aging out of his peak. I cant count the times someone said he was regressing and not near as good any more only to have a kings fan say something like "he's just not motivated to play well!" which, if true, would be a loser mentality.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, responding like that just confirms your trolling. You're really really bad at this.


Just because you don't have any original thoughts here doesn't mean you gotta bash on my creativity.
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Just because you don't have any original thoughts here doesn't mean you gotta bash on my creativity.


ah yes, doughty, wilson and gibson to the leafs, totally original thoughts. No one has ever thought of that before. good one
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ah yes, doughty, wilson and gibson to the leafs, totally original thoughts. No one has ever thought of that before. good one


You haven't made an AGM team since june 2021. You don't have any thoughts let alone creative. Just waste your days on here reading other peoples? What fun hahahaha
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You haven't made an AGM team since june 2021. You don't have any thoughts let alone creative. Just waste your days on here reading other peoples? What fun hahahaha


you seem to want to talk about anything other than how terrible your agm is, classic troll move
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you seem to want to talk about anything other than how terrible your agm is, classic troll move


Make a better one mr creativity.
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like i said, doughty had a bounce back year last season, it doesnt mean he is good going forward. And again, my point was that Kings fans were using the fact that he was on a bad underperforming team as some sort of excuse for him being bad and that's why he mailed it in or whatever, instead of, you know, just aging out of his peak. I cant count the times someone said he was regressing and not near as good any more only to have a kings fan say something like "he's just not motivated to play well!" which, if true, would be a loser mentality.


Oh no, he was legit bad. It was worrying, but he has trended up over the last two seasons. But I think it has less to do with inspiration and more to do with his defensive pairing partners, he had truly awful partners which made him play more of a stay at home role to make up for his partners.

2017-2018: Derek Forbort
2018-2019: Derek Forbort
2019-20 : Ryan Joakim/Ben Hutton
2020-21: Mikey Anderson
2020-22: Mikey Anderson

Take a look at the roles those players play today, he was forced to carry weaker defensemen and thank god Todd McLellan put an end to that.
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Make a better one mr creativity.


that right there is a loser mentality
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Oh no, he was legit bad. It was worrying, but he has trended up over the last two seasons. But I think it has less to do with inspiration and more to do with his defensive pairing partners, he had truly awful partners which made him play more of a stay at home role to make up for his partners.

2017-2018: Derek Forbort
2018-2019: Derek Forbort
2019-20 : Ryan Joakim/Ben Hutton
2020-21: Mikey Anderson
2020-22: Mikey Anderson

Take a look at the roles those players play today, he was forced to carry weaker defensemen and thank god Todd McLellan put an end to that.


oh yeah, that was basically what i was saying along with the fact that when you log 25 mins a night for a decade plus it wears you down and when you hit your 30s things tend to go poorly. He's had a great career, he's just in the twilight of it is all
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