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Even with Kadri this team will not make the playoffs

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Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 5 août 2022
Publié: 5 août 2022
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5 août 2022 à 13 h 21
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you forgot to sign romy and ross johnston should even be in the lineup
5 août 2022 à 13 h 22
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Isles aren’t doing that
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5 août 2022 à 13 h 25
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Well the Isles do not trade Beau, they trade Bailey.
They would play Romanov who they acquired.
Johnston would not be in the lineup.

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5 août 2022 à 13 h 29
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I'm a Rangers fan, but them missing last year was a bit of an anomaly... adding Kadri makes them fairly instant contenders to even the average hockey fan... I don't know how one can miss that

They compete with CBJ and NJD to take WSH's spot, who will surely miss without Backstrom.
5 août 2022 à 13 h 31
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Isles aren’t doing that


Neither are the Canadiens.
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5 août 2022 à 13 h 32
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Neither are the Canadiens.


Looks like the ACGM was a Red Wings fan.
5 août 2022 à 13 h 33
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Neither are the Canadiens.


Beauvillier is worth a lot more than two career AHLers and a 3rd
5 août 2022 à 13 h 34
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Beauvillier is worth a lot more than two career AHLers and a 3rd


MTL DOESNT HAVE CAP SPACE !!
But yes Beauvillier is worth more than that but MTL can’t
5 août 2022 à 13 h 37
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Beauvillier is worth a lot more than two career AHLers and a 3rd


In an environment where Bjorkstrand goes for a 3rd and 4th, he's not. Norlinder also isn't a career NHLer, he's a prospect. Pezzetta just graduated to the NHL last year.

Which ignores the reason Montreal doesn't do it - they don't have the cap space and don't need him.
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5 août 2022 à 13 h 37
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Beauvillier is worth a lot more than two career AHLers and a 3rd


bjorkstrand was also worth a lot more than a 3rd and a fourth, but here we are.
5 août 2022 à 13 h 56
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bjorkstrand was also worth a lot more than a 3rd and a fourth, but here we are.


And the isles dont have interest in trading Beauvillier, so it doesn’t matter what Bjorkstrand went for. Also the isles aren’t in cap hell.
5 août 2022 à 14 h 4
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And the isles dont have interest in trading Beauvillier, so it doesn’t matter what Bjorkstrand went for. Also the isles aren’t in cap hell.


they are if they sign kadri, like in this post.
5 août 2022 à 14 h 5
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they are if they sign kadri, like in this post.


they aren't required to move Beauvillier, he was already told hes not getting traded
5 août 2022 à 14 h 7
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they aren't required to move Beauvillier, he was already told hes not getting traded


well in this post he is getting moved. what do you think we are even talking about.
5 août 2022 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: Burnout
Neither are the Canadiens.


Sure they are. Pazzetta is fun to have and Norlinder is still an iffy prospect at a position in which the Habs are quite deep. The best player in the deal is Beauvillier, which means the Habs should take the deal.
5 août 2022 à 14 h 19
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Sure they are. Pazzetta is fun to have and Norlinder is still an iffy prospect at a position in which the Habs are quite deep. The best player in the deal is Beauvillier, which means the Habs should take the deal.


How much is Montreal paying to move the salary to fit him? Its the cap era, trades are not nearly that simple.
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How much is Montreal paying to move the salary to fit him? Its the cap era, trades are not nearly that simple.


Ignore him lol he thinks MTL can move Gallagher contract for FC lol
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6 août 2022 à 9 h 39
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How much is Montreal paying to move the salary to fit him? Its the cap era, trades are not nearly that simple.


Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Ignore him lol he thinks MTL can move Gallagher contract for FC lol


I would counter saying that you should ignore "TheRealisticGuy", since he clearly has a selective memory and torques people's comments. I suspect he's mainly burned because I pointed out that he doesn't understand the US collegiate rule that will make Struble a UFA after this season. FWIW, this was my exchange with CHAR:

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Gallagher has one of the worst contracts in the league. Not a chance in hell Montreal moves that.


Conventional wisdom would suggest you are correct, but if Gallagher, as he says will happen given the long off-season to heal up, regains his form and scores on a 30+-goal pace again and does all the other great stuff he does, there might be teams willing to take his term in return for a shorter problem contract of their own.


So, yes, I did say Gallagher MIGHT be moveable in the right circumstances but certainly not right away. And I stand by that.

As to Burnout's question:

Today, Dadonov could likely be offloaded reasonably easily, though his NTC likely complicates matters.

Anderson would not be a hard sell for any team with cap space, but given his history with Dubois and the hopes for Dach, I suspect the Habs aren't eager to part with him unless it's a very solid offer.

With a decent start, Drouin would fetch some interest, though it's just as likely the Habs might offer him a "lifer" contract at a much-reduced AAV. Drouin at $3M would be a bargain. At that point, Beauvillier becomes a lot less appealing.

I agree with the general consensus that moving Hoffman and Byron would be tough, though, if playing well, either/both could attract interest at the trade deadline, but I doubt either would fetch much. Hoffman is a credible addition to a team that needs scoring and has the other components in place. Byron, with an expiring contract, is a no-risk move for a team that needs a versatile veteran who, when healthy, is a significant' plus player.
6 août 2022 à 17 h 33
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
I would counter saying that you should ignore "TheRealisticGuy", since he clearly has a selective memory and torques people's comments. I suspect he's mainly burned because I pointed out that he doesn't understand the US collegiate rule that will make Struble a UFA after this season. FWIW, this was my exchange with CHAR:

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Gallagher has one of the worst contracts in the league. Not a chance in hell Montreal moves that.


Conventional wisdom would suggest you are correct, but if Gallagher, as he says will happen given the long off-season to heal up, regains his form and scores on a 30+-goal pace again and does all the other great stuff he does, there might be teams willing to take his term in return for a shorter problem contract of their own.


So, yes, I did say Gallagher MIGHT be moveable in the right circumstances but certainly not right away. And I stand by that.

As to Burnout's question:

Today, Dadonov could likely be offloaded reasonably easily, though his NTC likely complicates matters.

Anderson would not be a hard sell for any team with cap space, but given his history with Dubois and the hopes for Dach, I suspect the Habs aren't eager to part with him unless it's a very solid offer.

With a decent start, Drouin would fetch some interest, though it's just as likely the Habs might offer him a "lifer" contract at a much-reduced AAV. Drouin at $3M would be a bargain. At that point, Beauvillier becomes a lot less appealing.

I agree with the general consensus that moving Hoffman and Byron would be tough, though, if playing well, either/both could attract interest at the trade deadline, but I doubt either would fetch much. Hoffman is a credible addition to a team that needs scoring and has the other components in place. Byron, with an expiring contract, is a no-risk move for a team that needs a versatile veteran who, when healthy, is a significant' plus player.


MTL like Anderson, they won’t move him

Dadonov is a cap dump and the cost to move his contract is a 2nd RD pick

Drouin is bad. Scouts aren’t blind, the guy can’t play defense, has the worse work ethic and can’t stay healthy. They don’t care how much PPG he can do, the other factors are too important

Hoffman is horrible, his contract has terms and he couldn’t score with MTL using him in the top 6. Why another would commit on this guy ? Waste of cap space, they pass. Better option out there

IF Gallagher score 30 goals like you said, then MTL won’t trade him. He will remain on the 3RW and he’s been the heart and soul of this team

Byron could be move at the TDL half retained for a mid round pick IF he stays healthy. Maybe a 4th or a 5th
 
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