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Créé par: xercuses
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2022
Publié: 4 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $79 845 254 $0 $1 532 500 $2 654 746 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
787 500 $787 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 2

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4 août 2022 à 3 h 9
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Edmonton Declines
4 août 2022 à 6 h 0
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Dumba and Barrie are susceptible to many of the same defensive challenges. Dumba is younger, and more physical, but also carries a substantially bigger cap hit. Adding Puljujarvi to the package exacerbates the challenges Edmonton is already facing. The Oilers are over the salary cap, and yet they still need to add contracts in order to fill their roster. Since Puljujarvi's cap hit is pretty reasonable considering what he provides, the wise play for Holland is to move Warren Foegele for a draft pick or a prospect, and then look to move Barrie for a slightly less expensive defense-first RHD. Dumba really is the sort of player the Oilers have to avoid at this point.
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4 août 2022 à 7 h 43
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Minnesota declines. They have zero reason to take on a worse player and contract.
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4 août 2022 à 19 h 56
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Quoting: uphere
Dumba and Barrie are susceptible to many of the same defensive challenges. Dumba is younger, and more physical, but also carries a substantially bigger cap hit. Adding Puljujarvi to the package exacerbates the challenges Edmonton is already facing. The Oilers are over the salary cap, and yet they still need to add contracts in order to fill their roster. Since Puljujarvi's cap hit is pretty reasonable considering what he provides, the wise play for Holland is to move Warren Foegele for a draft pick or a prospect, and then look to move Barrie for a slightly less expensive defense-first RHD. Dumba really is the sort of player the Oilers have to avoid at this point.


You clearly haven’t seen Dumba play for a few years!
5 août 2022 à 18 h 41
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You clearly haven’t seen Dumba play for a few years!


You clearly have not given any thought to all of the parameters that should be considered when contemplating a trade. The Oilers believe they have 3-4 seasons in which to contend for a Stanley Cup, so that 3rd round draft pick has no meaningful value for them. They are $6M over the salary cap, so they may have to start the next season with a 21-man roster in order to be cap compliant. Puljujarvi is one of four right handed forwards they have, Yamamoto and Ryan are the only others who play RW. The Oilers needs size up front and Puljujarvi is a big, strong man while Yamamoto and Ryan are not.

The trade proposal might provide Edmonton an upgraded top four group of d-men, but the cost would deplete an area of need and leave them unable to address the huge gap on RW. Dumba is a very good hockey player, but he's not worth that much.
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6 août 2022 à 8 h 31
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You clearly have not given any thought to all of the parameters that should be considered when contemplating a trade. The Oilers believe they have 3-4 seasons in which to contend for a Stanley Cup, so that 3rd round draft pick has no meaningful value for them. They are $6M over the salary cap, so they may have to start the next season with a 21-man roster in order to be cap compliant. Puljujarvi is one of four right handed forwards they have, Yamamoto and Ryan are the only others who play RW. The Oilers needs size up front and Puljujarvi is a big, strong man while Yamamoto and Ryan are not.

The trade proposal might provide Edmonton an upgraded top four group of d-men, but the cost would deplete an area of need and leave them unable to address the huge gap on RW. Dumba is a very good hockey player, but he's not worth that much.


That has nothing to do with my comment! You compared Dumba’s defensive play to Barrie’s…Dumba is 10x the defensive player Barrie is! All of your other points are valid.
6 août 2022 à 16 h 43
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That has nothing to do with my comment! You compared Dumba’s defensive play to Barrie’s…Dumba is 10x the defensive player Barrie is! All of your other points are valid.


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