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We are not going anywhere another look at deadline possibilities

Créé par: Grapevine
Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 2 août 2022
Publié: 2 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Chevy might have sat still this summer but the reality of how mediocre this team is will hit home this season. We need to look for possible bidders on our two centres going into the deadline. A team will still pay to get Dubois at the deadline knowing they also can sign him one more time to a qualifying offer. Scheifele can fetch a big return at the deadline to the right team.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
31 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
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WPG
  1. Korpisalo, Joonas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Scheifele, Mark
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This gives them a 1C. I’m assuming they’ll be fighting for a playoff spot and this would put them in
2.
WPG
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
This would be assuming they’re in a playoff spot again and Vilardi doesn’t have a breakout year. With Quick’s contract coming off the books next summer they can sign Dubois for a year. Maybe he loves it out there and decides to stay long term. If not at least they have him through the end of 2024
LAK
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc (3 000 000 $ retained)
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AG, C
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
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825 000 $825 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
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UFA - 3
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
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G
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900 000 $900 000 $
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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2 août 2022 à 16 h 54
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did u forget that Laine plays in Columbus?
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Center is the last position that LA needs to address.
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Center is the last position that LA needs to address.


Dubois can play LW on your second line
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did u forget that Laine plays in Columbus?


And?
2 août 2022 à 17 h 6
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Dubois can play LW on your second line


Not for that price. No thanks from LA.
2 août 2022 à 17 h 8
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If jets lottery bound, might as well deal Schmidt if he waives, Dillon, and possibly demelo, depending on young rhd in return. Got to see where some of the moose are at. Would look at even selling ehlers and Connor if the right package is offered, maybe pionk, and helly too. Would love multiple first rounders in 23 draft and possibly similar in 24 and 25. Win the cup or win the lottery, don’t settle for anything in between lol
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And?


Scheifele wouldn't be welcome or Laine will probably want out.

Also, CBJ has no cap, they do have two young centers though that they can hope to be their 1 and 2C in Kent Johnson and Cole Sillinger, might as well play them. No need to rush and try to force themselves into competition.
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2 août 2022 à 17 h 13
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MTL needs a 2C, Arz could use a top C. Other than that most teams are set. There is also Bos and CGY.
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Scheifele wouldn't be welcome or Laine will probably want out.

Also, CBJ has no cap, they do have two young centers though that they can hope to be their 1 and 2C in Kent Johnson and Cole Sillinger, might as well play them. No need to rush and try to force themselves into competition.


Talented players don’t grow on trees. Everyone needs to be a grown up and figure it out. If you are going to act like a baby because someone was mean to you then you’re never winning anything. I’d like to hope Laine has grown up by this point.
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MTL needs a 2C, Arz could use a top C. Other than that most teams are set.


Most teams are set because it’s August. No one is injured yet
2 août 2022 à 17 h 17
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Talented players don’t grow on trees. Everyone needs to be a grown up and figure it out. If you are going to act like a baby because someone was mean to you then you’re never winning anything. I’d like to hope Laine has grown up by this point.


Scheifele and Wheeler were or are the ones who need to grow up in that regard, they were/are toxic and they are supposed to be leaders on the team.
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2 août 2022 à 17 h 19
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Most teams are set because it’s August. No one is injured yet


That's fair, there are probably other teams that could use them but CBJ can't really take on either contract and shouldn't. Better off playing the young guys. If they need help in the C position, a one year rental would be the way probably, although with Nyquist off the books and the ask, maybe they could make Scheifele work from a cap perspective (not sure who they need to sign next year).
2 août 2022 à 17 h 20
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Kings don't have the cap space for PLD, even at 50% retention.
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Scheifele and Wheeler were or are the ones who need to grow up in that regard, they were/are toxic and they are supposed to be leaders on the team.


They were leaders on this team at that time. The team was winning then. Now it’s not. That story was massively blown out of proportion by the media. No shocker there
2 août 2022 à 18 h 12
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That's fair, there are probably other teams that could use them but CBJ can't really take on either contract and shouldn't. Better off playing the young guys. If they need help in the C position, a one year rental would be the way probably, although with Nyquist off the books and the ask, maybe they could make Scheifele work from a cap perspective (not sure who they need to sign next year).


So I looked at it from your side and agree it’s tough. You have to trade one of the goalies at some point so I’d assume Korpisalo is the odd man out. Then you’d have to move another contract, either Nyquist which is less than ideal or Kuraly who has a M-NTC. Maybe next summer a trade for a centre works better for you.
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So I looked at it from your side and agree it’s tough. You have to trade one of the goalies at some point so I’d assume Korpisalo is the odd man out. Then you’d have to move another contract, either Nyquist which is less than ideal or Kuraly who has a M-NTC. Maybe next summer a trade for a centre works better for you.


It certainly would next summer. It also certainly would not be Schiefele. Toxic players with no character are not going to be welcome in what has been widely reported to be a very positive locker room atmosphere. Perhaps if he were a better leader then the Jets could have won something during his tenure with the team. The Jackets will be just fine without him.
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They were leaders on this team at that time. The team was winning then. Now it’s not. That story was massively blown out of proportion by the media. No shocker there


Could be blown out of proportion, or perhaps it is what was reported and the result was them not being able to return to that form they were at when they had Byfuglien. Their fall of course had to do with their weekend d line over the years but they weren't able to come together as a team. It wasn't too long ago that Hellebuyck thought they were on the verge of a dynasty and that they were just missing a few pieces.
2 août 2022 à 18 h 18
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Could be blown out of proportion, or perhaps it is what was reported and the result was them not being able to return to that form they were at when they had Byfuglien. Their fall of course had to do with their weekend d line over the years but they weren't able to come together as a team. It wasn't too long ago that Hellebuyck thought they were on the verge of a dynasty and that they were just missing a few pieces.


We were never on the verge of anything. It was all smoke and mirrors. It’s been that way here forever
2 août 2022 à 18 h 19
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It certainly would next summer. It also certainly would not be Schiefele. Toxic players with no character are not going to be welcome in what has been widely reported to be a very positive locker room atmosphere. Perhaps if he were a better leader then the Jets could have won something during his tenure with the team. The Jackets will be just fine without him.


“Toxic player”? I’d love to see the proof for that aside from a media report which is I’m sure mostly unsubstantiated or flat out distortions as most media is.
2 août 2022 à 18 h 21
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So I looked at it from your side and agree it’s tough. You have to trade one of the goalies at some point so I’d assume Korpisalo is the odd man out. Then you’d have to move another contract, either Nyquist which is less than ideal or Kuraly who has a M-NTC. Maybe next summer a trade for a centre works better for you.


Thing is CBJ has at least 3 young centers with a lot of upside. So even the following season wouldn't make too much sense. Only reason I could think of them doing it was if CBJ was all of a sudden a top 5 team in the east but needed help in the faceoff circle or the center position if one of those guys aren't ready.
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We were never on the verge of anything. It was all smoke and mirrors. It’s been that way here forever


Personally, I thought he was just delusional but if he truly felt that way, that must mean he had confidence in their group, he mentioned how each year they were having guys break out and step up. I wonder though if he still feels that way now, or if he will feel that way in 2 years.
2 août 2022 à 18 h 24
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“Toxic player”? I’d love to see the proof for that aside from a media report which is I’m sure mostly unsubstantiated or flat out distortions as most media is.


Guess the Jets will be just fine re-signing him and keeping him around if he's so great then. Why would they want to lose a character 1C who can provide so much to them?
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2 août 2022 à 18 h 57
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Thing is CBJ has at least 3 young centers with a lot of upside. So even the following season wouldn't make too much sense. Only reason I could think of them doing it was if CBJ was all of a sudden a top 5 team in the east but needed help in the faceoff circle or the center position if one of those guys aren't ready.


Who are the 3 centres? Is Johnson a centre or a LW? I’m not sure if that’s settled. Sillinger is going to be a really good one. Jack looks like he is figuring it out there and I’m happy for the kid but he’s a 2C at best.
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Quoting: GMBL
Personally, I thought he was just delusional but if he truly felt that way, that must mean he had confidence in their group, he mentioned how each year they were having guys break out and step up. I wonder though if he still feels that way now, or if he will feel that way in 2 years.


One very good season pulled a lot of wool over the eyes of this fanbase and that organization. In reality this team has been heading downhill ever since Vegas took us out.
2 août 2022 à 18 h 59
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Guess the Jets will be just fine re-signing him and keeping him around if he's so great then. Why would they want to lose a character 1C who can provide so much to them?


Because he’s 29 and wants to win. It’s not going to happen here
 
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