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Minny adds JT with extension in place

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Logo de Wild du MinnesotaWild du Minnesota

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Dumba, MattWild du MinnesotaLNH-5 967 742 $011---0000--
Boldy, MatthewExempté du ballottageWild du MinnesotaLNH-876 097 $011---0000--
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ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Miller, J.T.Canucks de VancouverLNH-5 221 774 $011---0000--
Pearson, TannerCanucks de VancouverLNH-3 232 527 $011---0000--
Höglander, NilsExempté du ballottageCanucks de VancouverIR-886 873 $011---0000--
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Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

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Miller, J.T.Canucks de VancouverLNH-5 221 774 $011---0000--
Pearson, TannerCanucks de VancouverLNH-3 232 527 $011---0000--
Höglander, NilsExempté du ballottageCanucks de VancouverIR-886 873 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dumba, MattWild du MinnesotaLNH-5 967 742 $011---0000--
Boldy, MatthewExempté du ballottageWild du MinnesotaLNH-876 097 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Wild du MinnesotaMIN)---100------
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Final-254 332 $ (↑)2044 (↓)67 (↓)4 (↑)612000
1 août 2022 à 14 h 23
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Delusional at its finest. Minnesota declines and blocks your number. Stop trolling wild fans with thus. You are living a fantasy. Imagine thinking it Miller would be signed to extension by cap hell team in Minnesota. Minnesota also taking on cap Dumo. Vancouver fans like yourself need to come down to reality.
1 août 2022 à 14 h 25
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How do you expect to get both Boldy and 2023 1st for Pearson and Hoglander?!
1 août 2022 à 14 h 44
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Quoting: Smithnd47
How do you expect to get both Boldy and 2023 1st for Pearson and Hoglander?!


The first is to take Dumba back without retention. Pearson and Höglander are the forwards under team control that helps Minnesota given the buyout caps from Sutter and Parise.
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1 août 2022 à 14 h 48
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Delusional at its finest. Minnesota declines and blocks your number. Stop trolling wild fans with thus. You are living a fantasy. Imagine thinking it Miller would be signed to extension by cap hell team in Minnesota. Minnesota also taking on cap Dumo. Vancouver fans like yourself need to come down to reality.


Minnesota maybe taking on cap, but they are getting control of Höglander and Pearson. Plus the trade only happens with Vancouver having allowed an extension to be negotiated and then a sign and trade deal happening. Given the buyouts that will hamper the cap space Minnesota fans need to understand that they will have to make trades that aren’t very good for them in the moment
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1 août 2022 à 15 h 9
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Quoting: Joshhaggstrom
Minnesota maybe taking on cap, but they are getting control of Höglander and Pearson. Plus the trade only happens with Vancouver having allowed an extension to be negotiated and then a sign and trade deal happening. Given the buyouts that will hamper the cap space Minnesota fans need to understand that they will have to make trades that aren’t very good for them in the moment


Dude Pearson sucks and is a cap dump Minnesota doesn't need. Minnesota has plenty of players like Pearson..to think he's a positive is beyond delusional on every level

Hog isn't even on same level as addison. Canucks fans like yourself need to get down to reality or stop trolling.

Minnesota isn't interested in JT Miller..we aren't interested in JT Miller & that has been made clear. You aren't getting boldy, dream on, or 2023 1st..to think it Miller has a worth like thus is comical on every level. Vancouver is in worse shape..imaging you trolling wild fans.
1 août 2022 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: Joshhaggstrom
The first is to take Dumba back without retention. Pearson and Höglander are the forwards under team control that helps Minnesota given the buyout caps from Sutter and Parise.


Somehow Pearson isn't a cap dump, but dumba is? Trolling much dude? Delete this bait because you are telling on yourself. Pearson sucks and would be beyond negative asset in this market. Trolling
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Quoting: Wildnochance
Somehow Pearson isn't a cap dump, but dumba is? Trolling much dude? Delete this bait because you are telling on yourself. Pearson sucks and would be beyond negative asset in this market. Trolling


If Pearson is a negative asset then would you consider Greenway a negative asset? Because Pearson out produced him offensively and is also a solid defensive forward. Both have similar cap hits as well
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1 août 2022 à 15 h 27
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If Pearson is a negative asset then would you consider Greenway a negative asset? Because Pearson out produced him offensively and is also a solid defensive forward. Both have similar cap hits as well


Greenway is better than Pearson in every way..only Casual use points to say a certain player is better. Greenway at 1.5 mil was 1/ 3 of one of the best 3rd line in the NHL , and total beast. You see Pearson contract is way worse considering greenway hasn't even started his 3 mil contract.

It's funny how Canucks fans start this bait proposals then complained when their players are called bad.
1 août 2022 à 15 h 33
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Greenway is better than Pearson in every way..only Casual use points to say a certain player is better. Greenway at 1.5 mil was 1/ 3 of one of the best 3rd line in the NHL , and total beast. You see Pearson contract is way worse considering greenway hasn't even started his 3 mil contract.

It's funny how Canucks fans start this bait proposals then complained when their players are called bad.


What does Greenway do better than Pearson apart from hit more? Pearson had more goals, more assists, and was just as good/slightly better defensively (according to evolving hockey). Pearson had a higher xWAR and xGAR. Greenway was negative in both statistics

So if Pearson is a cap dump at 3.25, why isn’t Greenway at 3?
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1 août 2022 à 15 h 39
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What does Greenway do better than Pearson apart from hit more? Pearson had more goals, more assists, and was just as good/slightly better defensively (according to evolving hockey). Pearson had a higher xWAR and xGAR. Greenway was negative in both statistics

So if Pearson is a cap dump at 3.25, why isn’t Greenway at 3?


Goals and assists is a weak reasoning to use against a player. You can't even compare Pearson to greenway considering even at 3 mil which hasn't even started greenway is still cheaper.
Vancouver fans should just keep Pearson then instead of forcing him on people. Go attack your Canucks fan who wanted to troll with the dumba is cap dump and boldy proposal crap..it sure seems like it's you making this proposals then respond with different names
1 août 2022 à 15 h 45
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Goals and assists is a weak reasoning to use against a player. You can't even compare Pearson to greenway considering even at 3 mil which hasn't even started greenway is still cheaper.
Vancouver fans should just keep Pearson then instead of forcing him on people. Go attack your Canucks fan who wanted to troll with the dumba is cap dump and boldy proposal crap..it sure seems like it's you making this proposals then respond with different names


I’m definitely not making these proposals on other accounts. Trading Boldy makes 0 sense for the Wild. But saying Pearson is a cap dump when he’s been better than Greenway makes no sense. You still haven’t made an argument on how Greenway is better
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1 août 2022 à 21 h 31
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Wild wouldn't have interest in Pearson. Miller and Hog I can see, but that's a pretty massive over payment by Minni

I can see Boldy and Dumba, maybe a late round (or equal value) sweetener. Not both Boldy and first
1 août 2022 à 22 h 13
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Wild wouldn't have interest in Pearson. Miller and Hog I can see, but that's a pretty massive over payment by Minni

I can see Boldy and Dumba, maybe a late round (or equal value) sweetener. Not both Boldy and first


Wild aren't interested in JT Miller. Not a chance Minnesota would ever put matt boldy in anything. Canucks fans overvalue it Miller worth
1 août 2022 à 22 h 46
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Remove the 1st from the Wild then maybe the trade would work. The Wild aren’t interested in Pearson though, and he’d probably play on the 4th line anyway. Plus, how would the Wild be able to sign Miller to an extension given that they are in cap hell?
Getting rid of Dumba would give the Wild 6M in cap space. Pearson being at 3M and Miller signing for around 7-9M would be almost double Dumba’s cap hit for one year. Not sure the Wild would even want Miller. Don’t see them trading Boldy either
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Quoting: CanucksInPurgatory
Remove the 1st from the Wild then maybe the trade would work. The Wild aren’t interested in Pearson though, and he’d probably play on the 4th line anyway. Plus, how would the Wild be able to sign Miller to an extension given that they are in cap hell?
Getting rid of Dumba would give the Wild 6M in cap space. Pearson being at 3M and Miller signing for around 7-9M would be almost double Dumba’s cap hit for one year. Not sure the Wild would even want Miller. Don’t see them trading Boldy either


If Bill Guerin is smart and he can pulls this type of move he does have the cap space to sign JT and take on Pearson plus the added bonus of getting Höglander who they can have full control over gives them the ability to shuffle around the forwards and add more depth.

When it comes to doing other moves realistically the only other area of concern would be the D, but when you look as the prospects they have in the pool they can address those needs internally. I think that overall it’s all about Minnesota adding scoring to remain competitive in the Central while not selling the farm to do it. Sure they give up a 1st and take on cap, but it would give them a top 6 forward, top 9 forward and a young prospect who is due for a bounce back
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2 août 2022 à 22 h 3
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Quoting: Joshhaggstrom
If Bill Guerin is smart and he can pulls this type of move he does have the cap space to sign JT and take on Pearson plus the added bonus of getting Höglander who they can have full control over gives them the ability to shuffle around the forwards and add more depth.

When it comes to doing other moves realistically the only other area of concern would be the D, but when you look as the prospects they have in the pool they can address those needs internally. I think that overall it’s all about Minnesota adding scoring to remain competitive in the Central while not selling the farm to do it. Sure they give up a 1st and take on cap, but it would give them a top 6 forward, top 9 forward and a young prospect who is due for a bounce back


Umm no, take your bait and fantasy elsewhere. My gosh Canucks fans are so obsessed with putting their players on other teams like Toronto fans, they can't accept no. How about you go force Tanner Pearson on another team in this cal world, and not wild where he would be 4th line or AHL. How about you deal with you aren't getting boldy. Wild don't want JT Miller. Keep your players. If you were smart, you would delete this horrible fantasy proposal
2 août 2022 à 22 h 12
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@NR1 you might want to comment on this
2 août 2022 à 23 h 35
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Quoting: Wildnochance
@NR1 you might want to comment on this


Interesting, not sure why wild would trade away there future kind of dumb. Boldy is a pretty big piece and most Likey gonna be a very good top 6 forward. So wild will pass on this
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